Help: Optimizing QR system for OM-D E-M5 + Nodal Ninja 3MkII + Capture Camera Clip system

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  1. Help: Optimizing QR system for OM-D E-M5 + Nodal Ninja 3MkII + Capture Camera Clip system

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    *Crossposted to the new Pano Photographers on G+ community* where I've also uploaded a series of photos to illustrate what I'm talking about... Feel free to respond on either thread...
    https://plus.google.com/114863235808...ts/4kqN6xecz1f

    Ok - so this is a request for suggestions. I'm trying to configure the above system to let me use the camera via QR clamp on a ball-head, on the NN3MkII whilst also using my new Peak Design Capture Camera Clip system MICROplate.

    I'm a big fan of the Capture system, having found them on Kickstarter, and use their system to holster my camera on my backpack when I'm out hiking. The fact that the Capture QR plate is attached to the camera and the same plate can also be used on my regular Really Right Stuff QR clamp on my regular ballhead + dropped into the NN 3 MkII QR clamp is great for quickly swapping between regular shots, and pano.
    http://peakdesignltd.com/capture/

    I've been using the NN3MkII with the Arca Style QR clamp for a couple of years, and recently started using it with the OM-D E-M5 and Samyang 7.5mm fisheye. Now the problem with the OM-D is that it has an off-center tripod mount (around 10mm). With the original Peak Designs plate (or their new square ARCAplate) I could let the plate slide into the NN QR clamp (vertical orientation) to the bottom stop, secure it, and I was only a few mm off alignment, which was good enough for most shots.
    http://store.nodalninja.com/index.ph...ase-clamp.html

    However the problem with this square plate and the OM-D is that I had to be really careful with the tilt screen to avoid catching it on the plate. So when Peak announced the new smaller MICROplate - I thought fantastic - and ordered one.

    This has a standard 38mm width, but a depth of about 28mm - which nicely avoids fouling the screen, but it doesn't fit any of my QR clamps. The new plate has a much more satisfactory footprint on the camera - completely avoiding the screen. However it is only standard QR width in the wrong dimension - which means I have to spin the QR plate on the NN3 by 90 degrees to clamp to the other dimension on the plate. This works, but now I don't have the width of the plate to slide across, and I'm stuck with too large an offset.
    http://peakdesignltd.com/plates/

    Is a SlideFix clamp the solution?: The 28mm depth confuses me as none of my ArcaSwiss clamps will close to this dimension. I wonder if Peak have made it to fit the ArcaSwiss Slidefix system? I can't find any drawings that show the dimensions of the system accurately enough. I guess the screw-clamp one is most likely to work as I've had problems with the flip-lock on 3rd party plates, and the combo clamp would work with old and new systems.
    http://sprng.me/haa1m

    NN Thin Rail plate - Ok... so I think I can attach the above combo SlideFix plate to the NN thin rail plate to replace my current standard Arca Swiss clamp.
    http://store.nodalninja.com/index.ph...-3-8-inch.html
    http://store.nodalninja.com/index.ph...-1-4-inch.html

    However - I've still got the offset tripod mount problem on the OM-D.

    NN T Adaptor III - looks somewhat cumbersome, and I don't think this will work with a QR plate of any form
    http://store.nodalninja.com/index.ph...mm-offset.html

    RRS BOEM5 L-plate and grip + then attach the MICROplate - this moves the tripod hole to the right location, to which I would attach the MICROplate
    http://reallyrightstuff.com/Items.as...pusEM5&key=cat
    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3270580?page=3
    http://www.m43.eu/akcesoria/niezwykl...olympusa-e-m5/

    Hmm - ok... so now I'm talking about this system
    RRS BOEM5 + stacked MICROplate on the camera
    Slidefix QuickSet + NN thin rail plate + NN3MkII for pano
    Slidefix QuickSet + ball head or P0 monoball (a touch heavy at 340g) for regular shots

    Is this going to work? Have I missed any options? Or should I just go back to the square Peak Designs ARCAplate, and be careful with the screen?
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    The problem I see with the plates for DSLR's is that they depend on being screwed tightly to the camera base. Kirk and RRS make camera specific plates that wrap around slightly, in order to prevent twisting of the plate. As I looked at the Peak website it seemed they are envisioning lots of situations that will place a lot of stress on their plate. I don't think screw mounts on camera bases are meant to take that type of stress and I would not want to find out! With my Kirk plate I am always confident in my QR connection.
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    Join Date: Aug 2013
    Location: Southern Oregon
    Posts: 14

    This is almost identical to what I'm trying to do! I also have an OM-D E-M5 and love the capture plate system. The only difference is that I also want to multi-row panoramas, so the solution has to work for non-fisheye lenses as well.

    I really doubt that trying to attach the Capture microplate to the RRS L-bracket will work. I considered that, but looking at their pictures, there really isn't much surface area near the (moved) tripod socket for the Capture
    microplate to grab onto.

    In this thread http://www.nodalninja.com/forum/show...al-Ninja-lines, I was asking for suggestions. The RS-1 or RS-2 should be a great solution for a fisheye lens, and Nick Fan said that he might come up with a rail with an offset for those cameras with offset tripod sockets (although Heinz aka hindenhaag) had a neat little solution of just having an offset block created -- I would use that between the rail and the QR clamp, thus allowing me to make sure those stayed stable (I could glue them if needed!).

    I'm waiting on the sale of some camera equipment to get the money to buy this stuff.
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    Join Date: Aug 2008
    Location: Netherlands
    Posts: 1,733

    Hi Andy,

    I found the solution for you: http://www.nodalninja.com/forum/show...al-Ninja-lines

    I made a small plate to get off the offset of the tripod screw on the camera body. The plate can be made smaller in case you need it. Have a look to my pics and you know what I am talking about.

    Heinz
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    Join Date: Aug 2013
    Location: Southern Oregon
    Posts: 14

    That link doesn't work for me.
  6. Using the HLD6 to help with the problem?

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    Join Date: Aug 2013
    Location: Southern Oregon
    Posts: 14

    Andy:

    I just realized that the HLD6 battery grip might help with the problem. The part that just gives you a new shutter button actually moves the tripod socket over to pretty close to being in line with the lens axis (I'm just eyeballing it, so I'm not sure if it's exact or just really close). I don't have a NN (yet), but I'm guessing that it's probably close enough to work within tolerances of a stitching program.

    I think that it will be enough for what I want to do, although it may not work for you.
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