I created a web page pulling together all the mods I have made in order to use a lens ring clamp with the M1L. Enjoy.
It never occurred to me that one could attach a lens ring directly to the upper rotator. That's an interesting idea. I wonder if one could make that work on an NN3? Maybe with the R1/R10 pole adapter as a spacer?
When I visualized using a lens ring on an NN3, I envisioned putting it on the upper arm. That's not as good as what you did Dennis.
Nick, maybe you could piece together a prototype since you have all the parts handy.
Think of it as a way to sell lens rings to people like me who want to keep the flexibility of an adjustable upper arm.
I did this back in 2009:
I have been suggesting a lens ring mount pano head (not the R1) for a very long time now. When I saw the first M1 prototype, I knew that my prayers had been answered. As you can see from the previous post, it does not take very much to get the M1 to work well with a lens ring clamp.
If you already have a NN3, you will need to purchase an R1 kit along with the pole adapter. This will give you the Arca clamp, lens ring clamp and rotator. You then need to source a 1/4-20 threaded knob. You bolt the adapter to the clamp. I put one of the extra NN3 detent rings between the pole adapter and the vertical NN3 arm. I also put a very think aluminum washer between the vertical arm and the knob. Only then do you cut the threaded knob to length. It has been several years since I put these parts together, so I may be missing a part.
That is a very sensible way to mount a camera and disposes of all sorts of alignment problems and makes a much simpler kit.
Nick, why not make an adapter kit for this with all the requisite parts? Actually two kits. One kit with the QR system and one kit without.
Last edited by DemonDuck; 12-27-2011 at 05:29 PM.
Per your request, we are making some lens ring plate for use on the upper rail of NN3/4/5. That may be enough for now.
We need to make better documentation (something I am weak at) before we introduce even more variation.
Last edited by nick fan; 12-28-2011 at 03:20 AM.
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It is a design intent in day 1. That is why the upper rail is not fixed to the rotator.
Dennis just adds a spacer to increase the clearance between the vertical rail and lens axis for better nadir patching.
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NN4 -- $349.95
QRC-40B -- $50.00
Lens Ring $109.00
I have a perfectly good NN3 that is perfect size for the cameras I use. And for me, just buying a lens ring is a big financial decision that I would have to think about a real long time.
And may I make the suggestion that a simple knob and bolt are more than adequate to fix a lens ring to the upper rail of an NN3 so if you can make an adapter that screws onto the lens ring that has a bolt hole -- that would be simpler and cheaper and smaller and lighter than any QR system.
Something like Heinz made a while back. I can't find the picture but a rail plate that just screws onto the lens ring and then a knob/bolt holds it on the top rail.
A QR system only adds unnecessary weight and complexity. A knob/bolt is light and simple.
Last edited by DemonDuck; 12-28-2011 at 04:37 AM.
I'm afraid I am not a very good customer because I simply have neither the money or the need for most of your new products.
My NN3 is going to be my pano head for a long, long time. Maybe forever. I hope you continue to support NN3's.
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Looks like I'll be buying a lens ring then. As soon as I figure out which lens I want to use for the next couple of years. That's the hard part given how fast things change.
The new T-adapter sounds good -- but a little late for me. I'm going with the NEX which has a properly centered tripod hole. But any person who has a compact camera with an offset tripod hole need that.
But the lens ring plate for the NN3 -- that's really good. That alone will save lots of alignment hassle. Make it thick enough to give proper lens clearance between the lens and the upper arm. Small cameras fit really close to the upper arm and many lenses have bigger diameter than the height of the camera.
I'm glad you will continue to support the NN3. It's a real work horse.
intimidate: verb transitive: to strike fear into; to influence by threats or violence.
I cannot believe that anyone would get this impression of Nick from his helpful and responsive postings here and elsewhere.
I find Nick to be the exact opposite of intimidating. Very easy to talk to while discussing ideas.
intimidate: : to make timid or fearful
I feel a little timid expressing my ideas and viewpoints. I sort of feel that I should mind my own business. But I've invested a lot of time into learning how to shoot panos -- at whatever level of ability I have. And I feel the need for certain pieces of equipment that are not offered by Nodal Ninja. But everybody else seems perfectly satisfied. So when I speak out about my perceived needs, I feel like I'm interrupting a group of people that is perfectly content.
That makes me a little timid and when I write stuff here in this and other blogs, I get a little nervous or fearful at potential reaction.
I think others probably feel the same way.
John, you took an extreme definition of intimidate. It's not like that.