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    Well the wait is finally over. Nodal Ninja Ultimate Modular System is the designer’s dream come true ever since the release of first Nodal Ninja SPH-1 seven years ago. It is based on Arca Swiss compatible system, the industry standard for high end photographic support system, together with innovative features badly needed by panoramic photographers. Precision CNC machined from premium T6061 aluminum and anodized, it has high precision, accuracy, durability and long lifetime all in one. The first model of this modular system is the M1 which has 7.5 degree precise positive stops at the upper rotator, supporting lenses from ultra wide angles to 200mm telephotos. It allows templates to be used to speed up stitching and reduce stitching errors.

    This the the larger of the 2 base configurations for the Ultimate M1 series pano heads.













    This the the smaller of the 2 base configurations for the Ultimate M1 series pano heads.








    Here is a custom configuration showing use with a ring clamp



    We are accepting pre orders now however initial quantities are very limited.
    Orders will be shppped in order they are received.
    http://store.nodalninja.com/categori...mate-M-Series/

    thx
    Bill
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    Is there a Nadir adapter in the works for these two pano heads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisS View Post
    Is there a Nadir adapter in the works for these two pano heads?
    yes.

    nick



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    Quote Originally Posted by nick fan View Post
    yes.
    Do we need one for larger model ? as we just need to screw vertical rail in opposite on horizontal rail and you can shoot nadir, right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincèn View Post
    Do we need one for larger model ? as we just need to screw vertical rail in opposite on horizontal rail and you can shoot nadir, right ?

    Vincèn
    speed and convenience. Otherwise a pano head is not even needed. ;-)

    Nick
    Last edited by nick fan; 02-10-2011 at 01:56 AM.



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    The new design looks very solid and it will be excellent if it can manage template stitching without control points. One minor downside of the lower rail mounting is that it might not be possible to quickly adjust the lower rail position by aligning the viewfinder centre focus point with the centre of the rotator. Is that the case? Are there any figures available for the weights of M1 configurations?

    John
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    Looks a bit like the bubble leveller is in the centre when the lower rail is set up to 2,5cm.

    But there might be marks on top of the clamp to use it to focus to the rotation center?

    Heinz
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Houghton View Post
    The new design looks very solid and it will be excellent if it can manage template stitching without control points.
    we will never advertise/ guarantee this feature. But in your hand, I am sure it can.

    One minor downside of the lower rail mounting is that it might not be possible to quickly adjust the lower rail position by aligning the viewfinder centre focus point with the centre of the rotator. Is that the case? Are there any figures available for the weights of M1 configurations?

    John
    I think the marking on the clamp can be used as a reference. In fact using a ruler to measure the camera height and then calculated the NPP value can be an easier approach. This is possible due to much higher precision in the design and manufacturing of the Ultimate series. I will make some tools for easily determination of NPP too.
    My aim is to build a certified NPP database for as many cameras / lenses as possible. Then I will make integrated rail stops for sales. Some good excuse to buy lots of gear for myself. Using the M1 will never be as easy before. More details to follow.

    Nick
    Last edited by nick fan; 02-10-2011 at 01:55 AM.



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    Nick

    I travel a lot by airline and I find myslef taking apart the arm and putting it back together and having to tweak the head all the time. If you produce the database for the various lenses along with some tools to determine the NPP this would go a long way with me.


    Questions:

    Is the camera plate going to be specific to the camera or lens to facilitate the camera mounting.

    When will you start shipping

    When can we see the NPP tools

    WHen can we see the Database being published

    The unit looks very good..... Congratulations...!

    Thanks
    Elliot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot View Post


    Questions:

    Is the camera plate going to be specific to the camera or lens to facilitate the camera mounting.
    as usual, we will use a semi-univeral approach. a range of camera plates, each works for as many cameras as possible, match the shape of the cameras and provide reproducible and secured mounting.


    When will you start shipping
    We will start first unit soon. Shipping date for individual order will depends on the number and sequence of pre-orders.


    When can we see the NPP tools
    I guess in March/ April. The conventional methods of NPP determination works just well.

    WHen can we see the Database being published
    The database will not be published. Cost to get a lens/ camera for calibration is very high. We need to keep this valuable info for ourselves. of course, we can share available data privately in email. Hey, don't expect I will have many NPP data very soon.

    Nick
    Last edited by nick fan; 02-10-2011 at 05:34 AM.



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    What is the main difference between the larger and smaller configuration, apart from the obvious size differences?

    Specifically, I am interested in which configuration for which camera. I have a D3s and D7000, so would the smaller configuration be usable with the D3s, or will a new set of lower and upper arms be required to accommodate the D3s?

    Obviously the main goal is the overall cost of having to support both cameras, whether to start small but add modular pieces to support the D3s later, or just go with the larger configuration from the word go, etc.

    Any information or recommendation for the combination of the modular pieces with the two cameras mention above would be very much appreciated. Also, some idea of the cost for the various pieces (longer lower/upper arm, etc.) would be very useful as well. Thanks.

    BTW, what camera plate comes with either of the systems? Universal or specifically matched to camera?

    Regards,
    Jonathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by nick fan View Post
    we will never advertise/ guarantee this feature. But in your hand, I am sure it can.


    I think the marking on the clamp can be used as a reference. In fact using a ruler to measure the camera height and then calculated the NPP value can be an easier approach. This is possible due to much higher precision in the design and manufacturing of the Ultimate series. I will make some tools for easily determination of NPP too.
    My aim is to build a certified NPP database for as many cameras / lenses as possible. Then I will make integrated rail stops for sales. Some good excuse to buy lots of gear for myself. Using the M1 will never be as easy before. More details to follow.

    Nick
    Nick,

    Can you give more info how to "In fact using a ruler to measure the camera height and then calculated the NPP value can be an easier approach."?

    Thanks...
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    Hi,

    It's around 8am here and it's a sunday morning. Nick is very busy, even on a sunday I suppose. We are waiting for our products. OK if I step into it?

    http://homepage.mac.com/hindenhaag/filechute/LRS-M1.tif

    Have a look to Wiki database as well to know what I am talking about:

    http://wiki.panotools.org/Entrance_Pupil_Database

    Measure H of your camera. Then measure O = Offset of M1 camera bottom to vertical rail. This means, whatever camera plate you use, fix it and measure. H + O will give you LRS. C= center mark of lower rail clamp. Fix LRS to C.

    Then use Smooth's tutorial to correct "System Faults" of whole System - Sensor "Miss"_placement inside camera body for example - to find your definite LRS = Lower rail setting for your camera body.

    http://www.easypano.com/forum/displa...1&TopicID=4162

    I always use this as add on, no matter on how you found your LRS in first case: laser placed position of lens axis to center of rotator, -90° center rotator shot, measurements as I mentioned.

    Smooth's "hacksaw method" is the golden goal: saw teeth cutting to the left, move to the left by 1mm, cutting to the right, move to the right by 1mm. Final LRS will show change of cutting direction of teeth moving 1mm to right and left of your definite LRS.

    Sucess and enjoy the new equipment.

    Feel free to ask.

    Regards,
    Heinz

    BTW: pic shows the M1-Nadir Adapter below vertical rail which will be available later this year to offer the "plug and play version" of nadir shots similar NN3/NN4/NN5 Nadir adaptor. No matter of long exposures or bracketing shots, this is "Nadir to Go"

    Plus, I am not a "Ballet Dancer" to save my equipment while shooting the Nadir bending over my equipment. But there are "many ways to Rome". Find your own workflow.
    Last edited by hindenhaag; 04-10-2011 at 12:13 AM.
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    How do you fix LRS to C? Do you use the cm marks on the bottom rail? If so how? Or do you do it another way?
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    Will the next models have more smaller precise positive stops at the upper rotator, supporting "longer" lenses? If so, any idea of when?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Bailey View Post
    The first model of this modular system is the M1 which has 7.5 degree precise positive stops at the upper rotator, supporting lenses from ultra wide angles to 200mm telephotos. It allows templates to be used to speed up stitching and reduce stitching errors.
    Bill
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