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  1. Tutorial "How to batch process hand held pole panoramas"

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    Hello Forum,

    Stitching a series of pole panoramas can take a long time but if you have a steady hand and take care of your shadow in the images then batch stitching is a real option to save you a lot of time.
    Batch stitching is possible as long as all images are having a large overlap and are having enough details, for this reason I prefer not to use a zenith or nadir patch as these most times requires a manual intervention.

    I wrote a tutorial with screenshots, demo images and PTGui templates to give you a quick start.

    For the tutorial I used one set of images that are part of a small series of handheld and batch processed pole panoramas.
    All panoramas are shot with a Fanotec Series 1 pole, R1 lens ring, R-D4 rotator, footplate, Canon 5D, Tokina 10-17@14.5mm, 6 images around, tilt-15 degree, out of NPP forward shift of the lens 12 mm.
    No post processing on the output is done.

    The tutorial (PDF 1.2 MB - revision 30122010):
    http://www.dmmdh.nl/forum_images/Tut..._panoramas.pdf

    The demo images with templates (ZIP 18 MB):
    http://www.dmmdh.nl/forum_images/ima..._panoramas.zip

    The series of batch stitched pole panoramas (batch processed in Pano2VR, Flash + Html/Css3):
    http://www.dmmdh.nl/panos/kleistee_s...image_006.html

    Please feel free to ask or report any issue.

    Happy Batch Stitching Greetings,
    Wim
    Last edited by Wim.Koornneef; 05-03-2011 at 05:07 AM. Reason: Panoramas can now also be viewed on iPad/iPhone/iPod
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    Wow Wim,

    well done. This will encourage a lot of guys to go on shooting on monopod and pole. Thx a lot for sharing. Plus to take the time to show the"advantages of snow" in NL. With the sun coming out. Thx a lot to take your time to share this with the forum.

    Some questions to get things clear:

    the set up is R1 with camera lens ring on top. R1 including RD4 rotator? Or did you split R1 to use it on top of pole and use the RD4 rotator at the bottom of the pole? The footplate fixed to the pole? Did you use all segments of the pole?

    To explain "out of NPP forward shift of the lens 12mm" to the forum members : This is useful to get the pole in wages. Using the NPP, the weight of camera lens combination is out of wages and sets a torque to the pole. The pole is bending. Moving the lens ring forward to the center of the pole, will minimize bending and combined with -15º tilt will result in a smaller nadir.

    Thx Wim,

    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family.

    Regards,
    Heinz
  3. #3

    Hello Heinz,

    Thanks for the compliments. I will try to answer and clarify some things.

    Quote Originally Posted by hindenhaag View Post
    ...the set up is R1 with camera lens ring on top. R1 including RD4 rotator? Or did you split R1 to use it on top of pole and use the RD4 rotator at the bottom of the pole? The footplate fixed to the pole? Did you use all segments of the pole?...
    The R1 is split from the R-D4 rotator, at the R1 a Fanotec mini QuickMount adapter is mounted to attach the R1 on the pole. The rotator is mounted to the bottom of the pole and to a footplate with spikes.
    All tubes of the pole are extended to get the max height possible, in this setup the lens height is approx. 2.9 m. I didn't mentioned it in my posting but for leveling the pole I use a R1 external bubble level and an adapter ring. The level is easy to read and sturdy mounted at the pole.

    To explain "out of NPP forward shift of the lens 12mm" to the forum members : This is useful to get the pole in wages. Using the NPP, the weight of camera lens combination is out of wages and sets a torque to the pole. The pole is bending. Moving the lens ring forward to the center of the pole, will minimize bending and combined with -15º tilt will result in a smaller nadir.
    True, the backwards bending of the pole will reduce a bit when the center of the gravity is moved closer to the center of the pole, however this is not the main reason for shifting the lens forwards. Without shifting the lens forwards out of NPP the top of the R1 with mini QuickMount will make a footprint, not a large one, approx. 10-15 degree depending on your lens and NPP setting, but by shifting the lens forward this footprint will be reduced to just 4-5 degree, in fact the footprint is that small that fingers around the pole are visible.

    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family.
    Thanks Heinz, I wish you and all Nodal Ninja Forum members a happy X-Mas and a very good 2011.
    Any chance that we will meet at the PanoToools Meeting 2011 in Vienna ?

    Best, Wim
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    Hi Wim,

    thx for quick response. I thought this was your set up.

    I have been playing around with Nodal Ninja Equipment. New Pole System, Mini Adaptor, NN QRS, using a tripod, baby tripod, monopod etc. I suppose some of the pics might explain what we are talking about. Copyright now belongs to Nodal Ninja of all the pics on this link: ©2010 Nodal Ninja!

    http://homepage.mac.com/hindenhaag/f...r%20R1_R10.zip

    Of course, to all Nodal Ninja Forum Members, Bill and Nick, and all the guys who helped us at Nodal Ninja and Fanotec, thx for an excellent service, for listening to customers, quick responses:

    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your families.

    Cheers,
    Heinz

    BTW: It is closer to meet in between Zeeland and Zuid Holland Wim. Just around the corner, isn't it? Just send an IM.
    Last edited by hindenhaag; 12-23-2010 at 11:32 AM.
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    Thanks for posting this, I was wondering about the workflow for doing this type of panorama and was having difficulty, This weekend I am now going to have another go!

    Neil
  6. #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Wim.Koornneef View Post



    Hello Forum,

    Stitching a series of pole panoramas can take a long time but if you have a steady hand and take care of your shadow in the images then batch stitching is a real option to save you a lot of time.
    Batch stitching is possible as long as all images are having a large overlap and are having enough details, for this reason I prefer not to use a zenith or nadir patch as these most times requires a manual intervention.

    I wrote a tutorial with screenshots, demo images and PTGui templates to give you a quick start.

    For the tutorial I used one set of images that are part of a small series of handheld and batch processed pole panoramas.
    All panoramas are shot with a Fanotec Series 1 pole, R1 lens ring, R-D4 rotator, footplate, Canon 5D, Tokina 10-17@14.5mm, 6 images around, tilt-15 degree, out of NPP forward shift of the lens 12 mm.
    No post processing on the output is done.

    The tutorial (PDF 1.2 MB - revision 30122010):
    http://www.dmmdh.nl/forum_images/Tut..._panoramas.pdf

    The demo images with templates (ZIP 18 MB):
    http://www.dmmdh.nl/forum_images/ima..._panoramas.zip

    The series of batch stitched pole panoramas (batch processed in Pano2VR, Flash between 6 and 12 MB each):
    http://www.dmmdh.nl/panos/kleistee_s...image_006.html

    Please feel free to ask or report any issue.

    Happy Batch Stitching Greetings,
    Wim
    Wim,

    I get this: "Internal Server Error" while trying your links. Can this be fixed? Thanks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbc597 View Post
    .....I get this: "Internal Server Error" while trying your links....
    Thanks for reporting this issue, it is now fixed.

    Wim
  8. #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Wim.Koornneef View Post
    Thanks for reporting this issue, it is now fixed.

    Wim
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