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  1. Coming Soon: Zenith / Nadir Adapter for Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10

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    Since their introduction in 2009, Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 have been the obvious choice for panoramic photographers needing an ultra compact pano head for traveling, backpacking or when weight and size is a concern. When used with a circular or cropped circular fisheye lens, with an equivalent focal length less than 13mm, it is possible to encompass the zenith (up shot) without actually needing to shoot this separately. What this leaves however is the rotator and tripod footprint and / or some blank space at the nadir (down shot) which is usually patched or covered using logos or effects like mirror balls, and other various patching techniques created using photo editing software. There are many however who prefer to take separate nadir, and even zenith, shots by various means to not only improve overall quality at these points but also to create a full 360x180 degree free floating spherical panorama "without" evidence of tripod caps or photo editing. When used with a full frame fisheye lens, with an equivalent focal length of 15-17mm, the zenith and/or nadir shots are mandatory if those areas need to be included. These will usually be taken from a position that is offset from the ideal NPP (no-parallax point), which requires a more complex workflow during post editing.
    Fanotec is proud to announce a compact and easy to use "Zenith / Nadir Adapter". Using this adapter will not only make the lives of perfectionists and full frame fisheye users much easier but will also cut post production times down, making it a perfect companion to the R1 and R10 series heads.


    The Zenith / Nadir Adapter allows the users to tilt their R1 / R10 to one of three preset tilt angles, -90 deg or -(90 ±7.5 deg). This will allow all models of R1/ R10 to take nadir shots at exactly -90 deg or -90 ±2.5 deg depending on the tilt angle of R1 / R10 in use. The shift in vertical height of the NPP can be compensated by raising the tripod center column. The included lock ring will aid in remembering the required height compensation. The tripod can be moved laterally to bring the lens back to NPP as close as possible. Together with advanced stitching software, the shooting of a perfect nadir and/or zenith shot is now possible.




    Shooting nadir to zenith is as simple as rotating the RD4 rotator by 180 degrees.
    This adapter can also be used with R1 / R10 on a pole or monopod without an RD4 rotator (the rotator should be placed at the base of pole or monopod). The optional Quick Mount Mini is needed to keep the footprint as small as possible to facilitate stitching if using in this fashion.

    The adapter together with the lock ring will have an introductory price of only $39.95 and will be available in the first quarter of 2011.
    Last edited by nick fan; 12-14-2010 at 03:24 AM.



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    Hi Nick,

    this will compensate the gap to shoot an easy zenith and nadir with R1 R10. As often, a very good result and design. Another proof that you listen to your customers. It is worth waiting for it.

    Cheers,
    Heinz
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    fantastic news, i'll definitely be interested in this. Thanks Nick

    Brendan
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    Hi
    Is this compatible with a ballhead on a tripod and the EZ Leveler II?
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    Zapyan,

    I am not sure but I suppose the adaptor screw uses the same thread as the blue one of the EZ-Leveller II ( Nick ? ): 3/8" which fits most of the tripods and ball head threads.

    The R1/R10 System supports fisheye lens camera body combinations only. But this is the smallest and lightest panohead you can use. In combination with the new Zenith Nadir Adaptor for R1/R10, you will be able to shoot these in NPP without a need of handheld shots for example. Great addition Nick.

    But this is another thread to the NN5 question.

    But think of what you like to use: ball head + Ez-Leveller?

    A Serious answer: most of us do not use a ballhead. Tripod, optional EZ-Leveller II in between, R1/R10, NN3 / NN5 on top. In case you use your ballhead on the tripod most of the time, you may use 2 different center columns on your tripod if it is possible, or you use a quick release system to change from Ballhead to NN.

    If you like to use your ballhead, you can level with your ballhead and you do not need the Ez-LevellerII. This would be too much.

    Hope this helps a little bit,
    Heinz
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    the zenith / nadir adapter has 3/8" male and female thread. so it works for ballheads and levelers.
    as heinz pointed out, ballhead plus leveler is heavy. use either one. the torque in nadir position is quite large, if you camera is heavy, a good ballhead is needed.

    Nick



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    Excellent idea ;)



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    Hi Nick,

    I played around with quick mount mini. I am referring to your picture with the Quick Mount Mini and adapter on top of pole without rotator. The easiest way for me to change Nadir Zenith position would be to turn the camera around the quick mount mini plate. This would be quicker for me than to take off the lens ring and turn the camera around. My question: to get the quick mount mini in a fixed position + - 90°, you could use the B1 holes at the bottom of the clamp. Can you add a feathered ball klick screw which uses the B1 holes to klick in and give a fixed +- 90° position? And add a white mark on the outside of the quick mount mini clamp which corresponds to a mark on the new adaptor to have a visible sign besides the klick? I do not know wether there is room enough to add the klick ball screw.

    Just some thoughts to try to make it easy to change from Nadir to Zenith without taking the system apart but just loosen the quick mount mini screw a little bit?

    http://www.ganter-griff.de/?cmd=norm...1031&pageID=14

    Cheers,
    Heinz
    Last edited by hindenhaag; 01-13-2011 at 11:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hindenhaag View Post
    Hi Nick,

    I played around with quick mount mini. I am referring to your picture with the Quick Mount Mini and adapter on top of pole without rotator. The easiest way for me to change Nadir Zenith position would be to turn the camera around the quick mount mini plate. This would be quicker for me than to take off the lens ring and turn the camera around. My question: to get the quick mount mini in a fixed position + - 90°, you could use the B1 holes at the bottom of the clamp. Can you add a feathered ball klick screw which uses the B1 holes to klick in and give a fixed +- 90° position? And add a white mark on the outside of the quick mount mini clamp which corresponds to a mark on the new adaptor to have a visible sign besides the klick? I do not know wether there is room enough to add the klick ball screw.

    Just some thoughts to try to make it easy to change from Nadir to Zenith without taking the system apart but just loosen the quick mount mini screw a little bit?

    http://www.ganter-griff.de/?cmd=norm...1031&pageID=14

    Cheers,
    Heinz
    The screws at the base of QM mini is for anti-twisting purpose. A click ball will not be strong enough for this purpose. The adapter plate can unwind itself and camera can fall.
    Besides, with many precise sockets and holes for alignment with different NNs, cost of QM mini is quite high already. Adding click ball will make further complication.
    I can try to shorten the head of the anti-twisting screws so that you won't need to fully unscrew the tighten knob of QM mini adapter.

    Nick
    Last edited by nick fan; 01-14-2011 at 07:18 AM.



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    Hi Nick,

    Thx for reply,

    Heinz
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    太棒了 希望尽快能买到


    --------------------------------------------------
    Nick's Chinese to English Translation:

    "Oh, great! I hope to buy it soon."

    :-)

    Nick

    PS although the forum support multi-languages, it is best to keep the discussion in English only.
    Last edited by nick fan; 01-14-2011 at 07:16 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Q8ty View Post
    any update on release date ?
    very soon now :D



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    I hope... I am waiting for

    kok
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