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  1. setup for Nikon d3s and nikkor 10.5

    #1

    Hi,
    I'm looking to buy the R1 pano head to use with my nikon D3s and nikkor 10.5,
    if anybody have the same equipment can you please give me the best setup values for it
    thanks

    lovro
  2. Re: setup for Nikon d3s and nikkor 10.5

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    The values are more for the lens and not the camera.
    Here are the settings:

    Nikon 10.5mm f/2.8 DX
    3 shots around (shaved lens on full frame sensor)
    Tilt angle NPP value
    +7.5°
    +5° 1.45
    0° 2.00
    -2.5° 2.30
    -7.5°


    Nikon 10.5mm f/2.8 DX
    4 shots around (shaved lens on full frame sensor)
    Tilt angle NPP value
    +7.5°
    +5° 1.10
    0° 1.85
    -2.5° 2.05
    -7.5°


    Bill
  3. Re: setup for Nikon d3s and nikkor 10.5

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    Thank you Bill for your really quick answer ,
    but I didn't aspect so many numbers :-)
    so please if you can explain the values you gave me,
    +7.5° suppose it means up to the zenith
    1.45 is it the distance to reach the non paralax point
    why the diference between the NPP values with 3 and 4 shots?
    one more question the values you gave me are in cm I suppose
  4. Re: setup for Nikon d3s and nikkor 10.5

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    Be aware you use a different angle of view. You have to test the setting yourself anyway. For D3 Sigma 8mm/f3.5 I found settings which sometimes correspond with those of Nick, and sometimes with the data from somebody else. I would first check 0° for NPP.

    http://www.hugha.co.uk/NodalPoint/Index.htm#Sigma%208mm

    You have to shave your lens:

    http://blog.panedia.com/2009/01/19/s...105mm-fisheye/

    I would go for 4 shots cause you are " a little bit more away from the corners", concerning a lot of "lens problems" and sharpness. Remember, you have to tape the focus before mounting the lens to the ring. And then you are fixed.

    Knowing your NPP for 0° and +5°, I would start with a comparison with 0° for 3 and 4 shots and stitch them. You can compare the sharpness , etc., plus you will see the zenith hole.

    If you find problems setting the camera body to +5° or you might find problems with the remote control, send me a hint, I think I know a way around. But I do not have a 10.5 to test this.

    Success, and feel welcome

    Heinz

  5. Re: setup for Nikon d3s and nikkor 10.5

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    Ups,

    when there is no data you do not have to use the 7,5°. 1.45 is to reach the the NPP for 5°. When FOV in +5° position covers the zenith hole, you just take your shots at +5°, you do not have to take a zenith shot. But you have a bigger hole for the nadir.

    You just have to test this and take your own decision.

    Yes it is in cm.

    Heinz
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    You can mark the NPP of 0° on the lens, go to 5° and move forward to the rotating point. See the difference for the Sigma.

    Heinz
  7. Re: setup for Nikon d3s and nikkor 10.5

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    Wow,after you few posts my knowledge about increases dramatically :-)
    Now what I can see for VR photography the same 3-4 lenses are the favorite:
    Nikkor 10.5 mm
    Tokina 10-17 mm
    Sigma 8mm
    Sigma 10mm
    I have the nikkor 16mm and am shooting 6 shots arround +Z+N,
    but I decided for wider fisheye lens , is it worth ?
    What lens do you suggest me in combination with the FF ( nikon D3)
    Thank you for your wide explanations
  8. Re: setup for Nikon d3s and nikkor 10.5

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    Hello,

    depends on what we want. I use the Sigma 8mm/f3.5 with the R1, the Nikkor 16mm/f2.8 with the NN5. If your are looking for pole panoramas in crowded places for journalism, a wider lens will be helpful.

    I will send you some information from my database at home this evening. Sigma 10-20mm is also one of the favorites.

    Regards

    Heinz
  9. Re: setup for Nikon d3s and nikkor 10.5

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    I'm looking more at real estate interiors and landscapes (nature), so the primary object for me is quality (here the 16mm works ) but also looking for action VR and sequence shots panos ,with a 10 mm and 170 degrees field view you have more possibilities,
    I have also the Nikkor 14-24 but I dont use it very often , for interiors I go for HDR and with more than 8 shots that's a lot of work
    that's because the sigma 10-20 don't interests me so much,
    journalism panoramas that's not a primary object
    thank you Heinz
  10. Re: setup for Nikon d3s and nikkor 10.5

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    Here is quick time object movie (.mov) that show how the rail settings change slightly with the tilting of a lens:
    http://www.nodalninja.com/media/R1_01.mov
    special thanks to Frank van Dam

    Bill
  11. Re: setup for Nikon d3s and nikkor 10.5

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    Bill,

    do you have a shaped Nikkor 10.5 mm to use on your D3x?

    Heinz
  12. Re: setup for Nikon d3s and nikkor 10.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by hindenhaag View Post
    Bill,
    do you have a shaped Nikkor 10.5 mm to use on your D3x?
    Heinz
    shaved yes
  13. Re: setup for Nikon d3s and nikkor 10.5

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    May be you used a sigma 8mm as well, do you personally think the the nikkor 10,5 would be the better choice?

    Thx in advance,

    Heinz
  14. Re: setup for Nikon d3s and nikkor 10.5

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    The 10.5 Nikkor is certainly superior to the 8mm Sigma. It's also good if doing work for print.
    Bill
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    Iovro,

    http://www.dpreview.com/lens reviews/tamron_10-24_3p5-5p6_n15/
    http://flashpanoramas.com/forum/arch...hp/t-1052.html
    http://www.360pano.de/en/tokina-sigma-nikon.html
    http://www.lenstip.com/porownaj.php?...0=360&add1=399
    http://www.nikonlinks.com/equipment_...prime-wide.htm

    My conclusion of what I have read, my experience with Sigma 8mm/f3.5, and all this versus Nikkor 10.5, Bill's comment and experience with his D3x, you have a much better sharpness for the Nikkor lens compared to the Sigma.

    Might be you go for a shaped Nikkor 10,5 DX lens, shoot bracketing 3 or 5 in "CL" mode, with a sandisk 60mb/sec or the new sandisk pro with 90mb/sec this will be a quick job for you. Indoors right now my favorite is the NN5.

    Might be, right now you have a problem .

    Even with a 16mm/f2.8, six shots around, bracketing 7 in Cl or even in CH mode, zenith and nadir, Bill won't be ready with his steak for us on the barbecue, not even in "raw mode".

    If you like, I will send you a .mov with a sigma lens. When you have the "situation", HDRI, High Resolution, the 14-24mm/f2.8 at zoom 16 or the 50mm/f1.4 might be a good solution for you. But, "this will ask the time for a good steak from Bill".

    But the buffer from your D3s and a very quick CF card will help you to be ready before Bill has got his steak, even in "Raw Mode". So take your time, and then afterwards, "enjoy the steaks and a nice evening".

    - Besides these jokes believe we are quite serious -

    Regards,

    Heinz






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