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  1. Wacky idea for pole adapter....

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    You can get painter's poles in the hardware store for really cheap. You can get lengths of 10-12 feet. Good enough to clear the crowd.

    But they have a funny kind of thread on the end. I think they are 5/8 / 6. Really course threads.

    I've thought about getting one to play around with but always am stumped on how to fix my NN3 to the end.

    See where I'm going? Nodal Ninja already makes a pole adapter. What about a simple pole adapter with the big course threads that would screw onto the end of the painter's pole with a 1/4 tripod bolt on top?

    Probably not a big seller though....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonDuck View Post
    You can get painter's poles in the hardware store for really cheap. You can get lengths of 10-12 feet. Good enough to clear the crowd.

    But they have a funny kind of thread on the end. I think they are 5/8 / 6. Really course threads.

    I've thought about getting one to play around with but always am stumped on how to fix my NN3 to the end.

    See where I'm going? Nodal Ninja already makes a pole adapter. What about a simple pole adapter with the big course threads that would screw onto the end of the painter's pole with a 1/4 tripod bolt on top?

    Probably not a big seller though....
    if you can supply me the spec of the thread, I can make a 3/8" male adapter for it.


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  3. Re: Wacky idea for pole adapter....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick fan View Post
    if you can supply me the spec of the thread, I can make a 3/8" male adapter for it.
    Nick
    I don't know if there are American style hardware stores where you live but if there are, then I think paint poles would be pretty common. Since we here in the U.S. get most (nearly all) of our stuff from China, they should be the same thing.

    The next time I'm in the hardware store, I'll ask and tell you what I find out.
  4. Re: Wacky idea for pole adapter....

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    I tried drilling a hole in a softwood and threading the pole end into it, but it was crude. See: http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...4-x-6-TPI.aspx for a thread and tap set. A 3/8 bolt centered on top of the tapped hole would allow attachment of the R10 / R1. Of course all of the above in a nice cast / machined aluminum block would be even nicer!
    It is not a wacky idea at all but a practical answer to using easily available extension poles.
  5. Re: Wacky idea for pole adapter....

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    Is it possible that if it is a 5/8th thread that it is a 5/8" Whitworth in which case you could use one of the Leica Scanner adaptors (e.g. L-N3-C-10):
    http://store.nodalninja.com/category_s/37.htm

    Best regards, Hugh.
  6. Re: Wacky idea for pole adapter....

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    Quote Originally Posted by waters View Post
    I tried drilling a hole in a softwood and threading the pole end into it, but it was crude. See: http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...4-x-6-TPI.aspx for a thread and tap set. A 3/8 bolt centered on top of the tapped hole would allow attachment of the R10 / R1. Of course all of the above in a nice cast / machined aluminum block would be even nicer!
    It is not a wacky idea at all but a practical answer to using easily available extension poles.
    The adapter could even be molded from dense plastic. The threads are so course that molding would produce something with acceptable tolerances and being plastic it would be lighter. If it was molded with a 3/8 hole, you could provide your own bolt to suit your needs.
  7. Re: Wacky idea for pole adapter....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
    Is it possible that if it is a 5/8th thread that it is a 5/8" Whitworth in which case you could use one of the Leica Scanner adaptors (e.g. L-N3-C-10):
    http://store.nodalninja.com/category_s/37.htm

    Best regards, Hugh.
    No, I don't think it's Whitworth -- according to:

    http://www.timebus.co.uk/rlh/whitworth.htm

    Whitworth have 12 threads per inch. That's courser than most but not as course as the threads on the end of a paint pole. They look like there's about 4-6 thread's per inch. Really course.
  8. Re: Wacky idea for pole adapter....

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    http://www.kaceyenterprises.com/?page_id=447

    Is that what you're looking for? While the top is 5/8, looks to be "standard extension pole threads (3/4 x 5 threads per inch)" for the pole adapter on the bottom.
  9. Re: Wacky idea for pole adapter....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwigum View Post
    http://www.kaceyenterprises.com/?page_id=447

    Is that what you're looking for? While the top is 5/8, looks to be "standard extension pole threads (3/4 x 5 threads per inch)" for the pole adapter on the bottom.
    Close. But there is no bolt on the top. And way over engineered for attaching a pano head. But yes, that's close.
  10. Re: Wacky idea for pole adapter....

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    Hello DemonDuck,

    Sorry to hear that the thread is not standard Whitworth.
    I have found a similar pole in a Hardware Store here in the UK ( I am assuming you are in the USA from your comment to Nick), so think that I now know what you are looking at.
    The threaded part is hard plastic so my next suggestion if a bit of Engineering is in order is to drill a 13/64" hole vertically into the top (say about 1" to 1 Č?" deep) and tap a Č║" Whitworth thread into the hole.
    Hopefully a 13/64" drill bit and Č║" Whitworth tap should not cost too much.
    From the same source as you would purchase the drill bit and tap you should be able to purchase a Č║" Whitworth threaded rod or a bolt (say 2" long).
    The bolt (rod) will screw into the threaded hole, but I would suggest é─˙aralditingé─¨ (epoxy resin glue) the bolt into the threaded hole for added security.
    Cut the rod / bolt to the required length protruding from the plastic thread and use a Č║é─¨ to 3/8th Whitworth adaptor to convert the Č║é─¨ thread to the required 3/8é─¨ Whitworth for your Nodal Ninja.
    I have suggested using a Č║é─¨ Whitworth (standard camera to tripod thread) rather than the 3/8é─¨ Whitworth to leave more of the existing plastic thread.

    Best regards, Hugh.
  11. Re: Wacky idea for pole adapter....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
    Hello DemonDuck,

    Sorry to hear that the thread is not standard Whitworth.
    I have found a similar pole in a Hardware Store here in the UK ( I am assuming you are in the USA from your comment to Nick), so think that I now know what you are looking at
    [stuff deleted]
    Best regards, Hugh.
    I would be a happy man if I had the tools and the workshop to do that sort of thing. There's lots of stuff I could think to do.

    But I don't......
  12. Re: Wacky idea for pole adapter....

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    Hello DemonDuck,

    Yes, I understand. Ité─˘s not everybodyé─˘s way to fiddle about like this.

    Nick has suggested he can make an adaptor for you, but another solution could be to use a surveyors pole, which come in varying styles, many of which have a 5/8é─¨ Whitworth thread at the top and can be converted to a 3/8th Whitworth tread to fit your NN3 with a é─˙Camera Adapter for Leica Geosystemsé─¨:
    http://store.nodalninja.com/category_s/37.htm
    These parts are made by a company, which I believe is in the USA, called Seco who specialize in accessories for Surveyors and produce a wide range of Surveyors Poles:
    http://www.surveying.com/products/pcat.asp?prodCatID=15
    The company markets its products in the USA and worldwide:
    http://www.surveying.com/dfinder/index.asp
    Other accessories include tripods for holding the poles:
    http://www.surveying.com/products/de...ID=5218-02-YEL
    and even extension poles with a5/8é─¨ Whitworth threads if you need even more height:
    http://www.surveying.com/products/de...ID=5902-00-FLY

    I appreciate that this is not as é─˙low costé─¨ as Painters Poles from your local hardware store, but can elevate your camera above the heads of the crowd, with reliability.

    One question though, if your pole was 10-12 feet long how do you turn your NN3?

    Best regards, Hugh.
  13. Re: Wacky idea for pole adapter....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
    Hello DemonDuck,

    [stuff deleted]

    I appreciate that this is not as é─˙low costé─¨ as Painters Poles from your local hardware store, but can elevate your camera above the heads of the crowd, with reliability.

    One question though, if your pole was 10-12 feet long how do you turn your NN3?

    Best regards, Hugh.
    Thanks -- the central idea was the cheap, readily available painters pole. There's lots of other poles. And you don't turn the pano head -- you turn the pole. But thanks again for your input.
  14. Re: Wacky idea for pole adapter....

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    I suspected that might be the case, so forget that the pole actually has a thread.
    If you have a mini (table top) tripod of gorilla pod, you could tape this to the pole or alternatively use a é─˙bottle podé─¨, which should be strong enough to support your Fuji e900.
    I doné─˘t know if the clamping device will go small enough for the 5/8th diameter so have ordered one to have a play with.
    http://www.cameta.com/OSN-Bottle-Top...medium=base_uk
    http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/prod...ucts_id=101571
    http://www.hama.co.uk/portal/article...tomcat_uk_lin8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
    I suspected that might be the case, so forget that the pole actually has a thread.
    If you have a mini (table top) tripod of gorilla pod, you could tape this to the pole or alternatively use a é─˙bottle podé─¨, which should be strong enough to support your Fuji e900.
    I doné─˘t know if the clamping device will go small enough for the 5/8th diameter so have ordered one to have a play with.
    http://www.cameta.com/OSN-Bottle-Top...medium=base_uk
    http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/prod...ucts_id=101571
    http://www.hama.co.uk/portal/article...tomcat_uk_lin8
    Now that might work. It should easily fit over the end of a paint pole or any other pole up to 30mm. I think I'll get one my self. Thanks.

    But you still will have to bolt your NN3 (or what ever you are using) to the top to put the camera at an optimal nodal point. For example, my compact camera has an offset tripod socket and if I used a fisheye the lens would be 6 inches to far forward so I'd put my NN3 or NN2 on the top.

    BTW: an old NN2 makes an excellent monopod pano head. Just take the rotator off and bolt it directly to the monopod. Great for small cameras.
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