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  • #31
    Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

    Nick:

    The new 10.5 ring was well worth the wait and better than what I would have cobbled up! I like the simplicity; put 10.5 on camera, camera on monopod, attach Manfrotto pole level and compass and away we go! First trial was great. Now I just need to put in nadir and zenith when I have time. The simplicity is the main thing though; I will be tempted to take more panoramas that I would not have bothered with if I needed to set up my NN3 & tripod. Thanks again!

    Tim Eastman

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    • #32
      Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

      On the store to order a Ultimate R10, we have to enter the desired tilt-up

      Have you a table given the recommended tilt-up for a particular fisheye lens on a particular sensor format ?
      Panophoto.org

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      • #33
        Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

        Originally posted by spyboy View Post
        I'm confused as to which model I need.

        I have a Sigma 8mm fisheye and a Sigma 15mm fisheye.

        I use 2 bodies: Canon 5DM2 and a Canon 40D.

        On my 40D + 8mm, I shoot at 0 degrees, 6 around, then 1 zenith ~90 degrees (can be less)

        On my 5DM2 + 15mm, I shoot at -10 degrees, 6 around, then 1 zenith at~90 degrees (can be less)
        or on my 5DM2 + 8mm, I shoot at 0 degrees, 3 around, plus 1 zenith if necessary (to eliminate shadowing on the stitch)

        I didn't see any images on how you'd shoot a zenith (at 90 degrees or anywhere 70-90 degrees)

        Can someone post some? (the object VR stuff doesn't work until 64bit windows, so I can't see those images either)

        The ring holds the Sigma 8mm but will it also hold a Sigma 15mm? I'm not sure if it's a different size, looks the same to me, but that's not technical

        Kirk

        Hi Kirk,
        The most simple answer is use a NN3mk2 with a D8 rotator.
        (yes it can hold the 5D (mk2) perfectly)
        Or NN5.

        The less simple anwer is, the R1.
        Mind you this machine is designed for one row pano's; zenith and nadir are
        off set. (extra stitch time !!!!!!)
        The R10 can't shoot nadirs and zeniths at all.

        You will be helped a lot more with a lens like the Tokina 10-17mm @12. (@FF)
        With the 5D mk2 you have plenty resolution without Z/N
        A R10 is an option then again.

        I have the Sig 8 and 15 and I will try if the Sig8 insert fits but I doubt.
        The beta 8mm R1 ring is on my sig8 now.
        BTW the lensring system is a 2 ring system.
        One, the mounting ring, and inserts for spec. lenses.
        Does this help ?
        grtz
        Frank

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        • #34
          Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

          Originally posted by spyboy View Post
          I'm confused as to which model I need.

          I have a Sigma 8mm fisheye and a Sigma 15mm fisheye.

          I use 2 bodies: Canon 5DM2 and a Canon 40D.

          On my 40D + 8mm, I shoot at 0 degrees, 6 around, then 1 zenith ~90 degrees (can be less)

          On my 5DM2 + 15mm, I shoot at -10 degrees, 6 around, then 1 zenith at~90 degrees (can be less)
          or on my 5DM2 + 8mm, I shoot at 0 degrees, 3 around, plus 1 zenith if necessary (to eliminate shadowing on the stitch)

          I didn't see any images on how you'd shoot a zenith (at 90 degrees or anywhere 70-90 degrees)

          Can someone post some? (the object VR stuff doesn't work until 64bit windows, so I can't see those images either)

          The ring holds the Sigma 8mm but will it also hold a Sigma 15mm? I'm not sure if it's a different size, looks the same to me, but that's not technical

          Kirk
          Hi Kirk,
          you can download the QT movie and play it on QT7.6. I test it on vista 64 bit.

          R1/10 is a single row pano head. For sigma 8mm on 1.6x and FF sensor, you can cover the zenith by a tilt of 5-7.5 deg. For sigma 15mm, you need -10 deg tilt. and need a zenith shot. You can do this off R1/10. On R1 you can take a zenith shot off-set from NPP. This works for outdoor pano. So it looks like you need a R1.
          Sigma 15mm has similar size from Sigma 8mm. So there is a chance it may share the same ring. I will check it out later. What I am sure is that the outer metal ring is the same. The plastic insert and lens ring plate(rail) may be different to get optimized result.

          I need to clarify that R1/10 is not to replace mult-row pano head such as NN3/5. I have made a new Arca Swiss style QR clamp recently. You can mount the clamp parallel or perpendicular to the rail of NN3/5. It allows the lens ring to be mounted on NN3/5.


          Nick
          Fanotec
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          • #35
            Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

            Originally posted by gibie View Post
            On the store to order a Ultimate R10, we have to enter the desired tilt-up

            Have you a table given the recommended tilt-up for a particular fisheye lens on a particular sensor format ?
            Yes, we need to work this work ASAP.
            a quick guide.

            1. circular fishey with 180 deg coverage or bigger, such as 4.5mm, 4.88mm or 5.6mm fisheye on 1.5-1.7x sensor, or 8mm or shaved 10mm, 10.5mm fisheye on FF sensor
            ----------------> +2.5 deg tilt on tripod/monopod, -2.5 deg tilt on high pole.

            2. Cropped circular fishey with close to 180 deg coverage in long side of sensor, such as 8mm fisheye on 1.5-1.7x sensor
            ----------------> +5 to +7.5 deg tilt on tripod/monopod, -5 to -7.5 deg tilt on high pole. For 1.5x sensor, use 5 deg tilt. For 1.6/1.7x, use 7.5 deg tilt. For 1.5/1.6x sensor rolled at 60 deg, use 5 deg tilt.

            3. For full frame fishey such as 10mm/10.5mm fisheye on 1.5-1.7x sensor or 15/16mm fishey on FF sensor
            ----------------> -10 deg tilt on tripod/monopod/high pole.


            Nick
            Fanotec
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            • #36
              Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

              Nick, thanx for the quick answser
              Panophoto.org

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              • #37
                Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

                Kirk, the Sig8 lensring fits the sig15 as well !!

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                • #38
                  Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

                  photo

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                  • #39
                    Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

                    Hi Nick,

                    "Features and Highlights" said that Ultimate R1&R10 are "Compact and light weight". What is the weight of Nodal Ninja Ultimate R10 Static Ring Mount Pano Head NO ROTATOR + Lens Ring for Sigma (Nikon Mount) 8mm f/3.5 ?

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                    • #40
                      Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

                      Originally posted by Luisben View Post
                      Hi Nick,

                      "Features and Highlights" said that Ultimate R1&R10 are "Compact and light weight". What is the weight of Nodal Ninja Ultimate R10 Static Ring Mount Pano Head NO ROTATOR + Lens Ring for Sigma (Nikon Mount) 8mm f/3.5 ?

                      260g
                      Fanotec
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                      • #41
                        Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

                        Sorry I have some difficulties with R1. I just wanted to give it a try so I can better understand how it works and help my customers better way.

                        I just took a R1, installed on it a Nikon 10.5mm fisheye mounted on my D3 (so my D3 will work in DX mode as 10.5 is not FX lens). I think everything is more or less setup but how do you setup the horizontal offset ? what is best value for that lens ? should I take shots horizontally or change tilt ?

                        Thanks for your infos and feedback

                        Vinc?®n
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                        • #42
                          Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

                          Originally posted by Vinc?®n View Post
                          Sorry I have some difficulties with R1. I just wanted to give it a try so I can better understand how it works and help my customers better way.

                          I just took a R1, installed on it a Nikon 10.5mm fisheye mounted on my D3 (so my D3 will work in DX mode as 10.5 is not FX lens). I think everything is more or less setup but how do you setup the horizontal offset ? what is best value for that lens ? should I take shots horizontally or change tilt ?

                          Thanks for your infos and feedback

                          Vinc?®n
                          You need to calibrate the R1 for each tilt setting. Use the same method for calibrating the upper rail setting.
                          You can use 0, -7.5, -10 deg tilt +zenith + nadir.

                          Nick
                          Fanotec
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                          • #43
                            Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

                            Just received R1/Sigma 8 f/Nikon
                            Great first impressions. Nick, another great tool for panoramic photographers from you, thank you!

                            A couple of questions:
                            1. The ring interacts with focusing ring on the lens, so when I mount ring it changes focus settings. Can it be prevented some way?
                            2. Did anybody determine offset setting for Sigma 8/Nikon mount?

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                            • #44
                              Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

                              Offset setting for Sigma 8mm f/3.5 is:


                              Angle of Tilt - Sigma 8mm x 4
                              +12.5 - 0.9
                              +5 - 1.9
                              0 - 2.6
                              -2.5 - 2.85
                              -7.5 - 3.6
                              -10 - 3.9
                              Badders

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                              • #45
                                Re: Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 and R10 Ring Mount Pano Heads.

                                Thank you for offset settings table!

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