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  • Shoot Z/N in NPP with R1/R10? Yes, it is possible with some additional equipment

    Hello everyone,

    is there a possibility to close the gap using R1/R10 for Z/N shots in NPP without stepping over to NN3/NN5 or taking handheld or viewpoint corrected shots?

    Yes, I personally have found my solution for this special situation and I feel free to present it to the forum.

    Serious comments appreciated.

    Regards,

    Heinz
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    Hi guys,

    some basic shots, uncorrected for CA, etc., exposure chosen for good nadir view, so there are overexposed areas,I know how to shoot a good pano. This one is only to taken to test the workflow in PTGui beta2 by masking and stitching .

    Feel free to play around.

    http://web.me.com/hindenhaag/filechu...mNadirTest.zip
    http://web.me.com/hindenhaag/filechu...0NNP%20Set.zip
    Heinz
    Last edited by hindenhaag; 08-14-2010, 12:45 AM.

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    • #3
      Interesting concept Heinz, but I'd have to say to be quite honest - pointless! I really can't see anyone wanting to go through all the steps needed to do this. Simply too many changes to the setup in terms of hardware swaps and tripod re-positoning for me. Viewpoint correction works fine as shown here:

      http://www.360tacticalvr.com/blog/?p=117

      But you are right in that the R1/R10 is a great portable product with the one and only flaw (actually two as there's FAR too many lens rings to stock......) being the limitations of zenith/nadir shooting.
      Badders

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      • #4
        Originally posted by hindenhaag View Post
        Hello everyone,

        is there a possibility to close the gap using R1/R10 for Z/N shots in NPP without stepping over to NN3/NN5 or taking handheld or viewpoint corrected shots?

        Yes, I personally have found my solution for this special situation and I feel free to present it to the forum.

        Serious comments appreciated.

        Regards,

        Heinz
        Heinz,

        I have thought of an adapter for taking zenith/nadir shots for R1/10 many times. However, I fail to come up with a design that the overall setup is more compact than a multi-row pano head such as NN3. So I gave up. For those who need to use a lens ring and take perfect zenith and nadir shots, my next NN Ultimate is the answer.

        Trausti has offered an alternative method.

        Originally posted by Flashificator View Post

        Here is a pano shot with Olympus E-520 with Zuiko 8mm fisheye used with R1 and EZ leveler on top of a Frankenstein tripod.

        http://flashificator.com/1/Diverse/Kitchen1

        It was tilted 10° down, and one shot 90°up where I raise the center column to make up for the tilting, having drilled a hole in the column and putting a pin through the holes... brings the camera to the correct height in a few seconds... and moving the tripod the few cm's that are needed is normally ok... but can be made better I'm sure.

        All in all: R1 is a perfect tool for both outside and inside jobs, especially when the camera height can be regulated as quickly as I do it with the zenith shot.

        The only thing that might become an "issue" with R1, is the nadir shot, but until now I have not had any situation I haven't been able to photoshop over, or cover the hole with a nadir cap with a couple of clicks in Flashificator.
        Nick
        Last edited by nick fan; 08-14-2010, 02:34 AM.
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        • #5
          Heinz,

          I love seeing people think outside the box. That is how new products are created.

          I played around with many ideas while trying to solve the whole "How do I shoot a long exposure Nadir patch shot". One solution that I ended up using for several years (before I made a pano head with the Nadir swivel built in) was
          .

          No "tripod gymnastics" involved. Using quick relase plates, it takes seconds to reconfigure the rig from shooting on the pano head to shooting the Nadir.

          I have toyed around with the idea of making a miniature pano head that does not allow for a Zenith shot. Using the Sigma 8mm tilted up 5 degrees eliminates the need for a Zenith shot. Since you will not be rotating the camera for the Zenith, no need for a long vertical arm. It would still need a Nadir swivel of some sort. I have not taken test photos yet to see how far you need to move over, so I do not know if it would be practical. Maybe your test photos will provide the answer.

          Keep on "thinking outside the box".

          Dennis

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          • #6
            - pointless!
            For long exposure Nadir patch shots, this would work quite well. I know that I cannot hold the camera still for a 2 second exposure. Whatever gets the job done.

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            • #7
              Thx a lot for your responses.

              I tried to fill the gap by adding pieces which are already available on the market. I know I do not have to use it in daily situations. I tried to expand the use of the R1 for NPP Zenith shot indoors for real estate for example and long exposure Nadir patch shot. I did not take part in a salsa course to replace my tripod 38cm sideways.

              Regards,

              Heinz

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