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  • NN3 mk2 with nadir adapter

    Hello,

    I'm considering purchasing the nadir adapter even though it's pretty expensive to get it here in France.

    I'm wondering about something: looking at how it mounts, it doesn't seem that it would require changing the camera position settings on either the lower or vertical rail, but I've read a quick test somewhere which pretended that the top rail settings have to be changed. This doesn't seem logical to me as I don't see why the higher position would demand a setting change, as the camera is still rotating around the same point anyway.

    Can anyone confirm?

    Thanks.

  • #2
    Hi,

    In fact if you use the nadir adapter on NN3 you'll need to move forward vertical rail on lower rail to the center of 7mm when you use Nadir Adapter with rail stops :) It's due to way vertical rail is built and difference of size between NN3 and NN5 version. No change of settings needed on upper rail ;)

    Vincèn

    En français:
    Si vous utilisez l'adaptateur nadir sur une NN3, vous devrez décaler la fixation du bras vertical sur le bras horizontal de 7mm vers le centre en raison du rail vertical de la NN3 fait différemment de celui de la NN5, et le fait que l'adaptateur Nadir est principalement conçu pour la NN5 ! Aucun changement de réglage en revanche sur le bras supérieur où est fixé l'appareil photo :)
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    • #3
      (keeping it in English for everyone's benefit) Hmmm, this is still strange to me because on the photos of the setup, I can see that the front of the nadir adapter is flush with the front of the vertical rail. On my pano head, I use the plastic stop in front of the vertical rail, so it looks like the front edge of the nadir adapter will be in the same position as the front (long) edge of the vertical rail...

      EDIT: oh, I'm just understanding now. The photos are showing the NN5, and not the NN3? The base of the vertical rail has a different dimension on the NN5, and so mine would not be flush as it shows on the photographs...is that right?
      Last edited by LeChuck; 03-20-2011, 04:41 AM.

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      • #4
        Actually, what is the length of the nadir adapter? I'm afraid it might not even fit on the bottom rail of my NN3...

        PS: je viens de passer commande chez toi. Il était indiqué en réassort hier je crois...On verra bien si ça fonctionne sans problème.
        Last edited by LeChuck; 03-20-2011, 04:51 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LeChuck View Post
          (keeping it in English for everyone's benefit) Hmmm, this is still strange to me because on the photos of the setup, I can see that the front of the nadir adapter is flush with the front of the vertical rail. On my pano head, I use the plastic stop in front of the vertical rail, so it looks like the front edge of the nadir adapter will be in the same position as the front (long) edge of the vertical rail...
          EDIT: oh, I'm just understanding now. The photos are showing the NN5, and not the NN3? The base of the vertical rail has a different dimension on the NN5, and so mine would not be flush as it shows on the photographs...is that right?
          You got it :) you understood why you'll need to move it forward few millimeters on NN3 to keep your settings correct
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          • #6
            Originally posted by LeChuck View Post
            Actually, what is the length of the nadir adapter? I'm afraid it might not even fit on the bottom rail of my NN3...
            It'll fit on NN3. What are current settings you use on lower rail ?

            Originally posted by LeChuck View Post
            PS: je viens de passer commande chez toi. Il était indiqué en réassort hier je crois...On verra bien si ça fonctionne sans problème.
            En fait c'est dispo en stock c'est juste la boutique où les stocks étaient pas à jour mais depuis heir tout est ok Tu as passé ta commande quand ? ça me dit rien

            Vince

            Edit: oups tu viens de passer ta commande ça partira demain au courrier donc livraison mercredi chez toi merci
            Last edited by Vincèn; 03-20-2011, 05:00 AM.
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            • #7
              Yeah, I didn't realize the product photos had the NN5. That said, it's not a problem as it's a fixed change. I can do that without having to redo all the testing and setup. Since it will move forward a bit, the adapter should fit fine.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Vincèn View Post
                It'll fit on NN3. What are current settings you use on lower rail ?


                En fait c'est dispo en stock :) c'est juste la boutique où les stocks étaient pas à jour mais depuis heir tout est ok :) Tu as passé ta commande quand ? ça me dit rien :/

                Vince

                Edit: oups tu viens de passer ta commande :D ça partira demain au courrier donc livraison mercredi chez toi ;) merci
                Yes, I just placed the order a few minutes ago. I had previously ordered the new camera plate, which works great.

                The setting on my lower rail has the front edge of the vertical rail around 4.85mm. I use a Panasonic GH2 with 7-14mm lens, so the setup is pretty compact.
                Last edited by LeChuck; 03-20-2011, 05:02 AM. Reason: spelling

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LeChuck View Post
                  The setting on my lower rail has the front edge of the vertical rail around 4.85mm. I use a Panasonic GH2 with 7-14mm lens, so the setup is pretty compact.
                  4.85cm you mean no ?

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                  • #10
                    Hi guys,

                    just have a look : http://www.nodalninja.com/Manuals/na...erQRG_full.pdf

                    Heinz

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                    • #11
                      Yes, of course, 4.85cm, sorry :)

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the manual link Heinz! I wish I had found the earlier. Makes a lot more sense now :)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by hindenhaag View Post
                          Thanks Heinz for link, shame on me, didn't notice we had now a manual for Nadir adapter

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                          • #14
                            We know you are very busy and right now it is a chance to show on how to take panos with NN equipment in very special places. We learn a lot looking to your panos.
                            That's what this forum is known for: quick response, by owners, members, to try to get users on their way.

                            Heinz

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                            • #15
                              Unfortunately the nadir adapter doesn't quite fit for me. This is because my camera is compact, and there isn't enough space in front of the adapter to fit the plastic stop if I move it 6mm. It then comes into contact with the top part of the rotator on the NN3-2. There's just about 1mm missing. I could grind the plastic stop to make it narrower I guess or find another way to rig this.

                              I have also been thinking about getting the EZ Leveler 2 with the included rotator for a while, and that setup would also remove the top part of the NN3's rotator I believe.

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