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07-21-2011, 01:29 AM
Turn up your speakers.


I stayed inside the railing while taking this one. Used an Sony NEX-5, Sigma 8mm, NN R1 and a monopod.

nick fan
07-21-2011, 02:50 AM
thx for sharing. great one. Did you find a way to protect the lens from the mist?


07-21-2011, 09:24 AM

At the top of the falls, there was no mist. Lower down on the trail there was a perfect pano opportunity with a double rainbow, mist all around and sun rays poking through the trees. There was no way I was going to take my camera out since it felt like I was standing in the shower! At the upper falls, I was able to wipe the lens between shots and Photoshop out all water droplets on the lens.


07-21-2011, 09:40 AM
Good one!

07-21-2011, 12:02 PM

thx for sharing. It demonstrates us that a very experienced panographer goes on trying to reach new borders of what is possible done by "the expert of the monopod". You do not stand still. Always trying to get the lightest equipment to be ready to shoot a pano having the equipment in the pocket for the special moment. Even on a bicycle. By trying new equipment as well as machining new set ups to fit the top of R1/R10. Plus many thx for your comments on different forums about the Sony Experience to shoot panos.

I am convinced NN Forum as well as others learns a lot of your inputs. Thx a lot DennisS.


07-21-2011, 12:22 PM
:blush: Oh gosh, stop it some more. Thanks Heinz for your very kind words.

07-22-2011, 12:47 AM
Nice pano but let this news item be a warning to anyone thinking of stepping over the rail to get the "perfect" shot.... : http://photo.net/off-topic-forum/00Z4N7

07-22-2011, 06:18 AM
(quoted from an earlier entry in another forum)

When we were at Nevada Falls (higher up the trail), we were amazed at how many people were getting so very close to the water. There are no guard rails at Nevada Falls. Idiots like those three are going to spoil it for the rest of us.

Funny (sort of) that I took a pano right next to the warning sign.


Here is my first video shot with the NEX-5/Sigma 8mm lens. The file is 48 meg, so it might take a while to download. It was scary just holding the camera over the edge of the railing.


In the late summer when the water is just a trickle, people swim in the Emerald Pool just above the falls.


All the wood floating in the water is right in the middle of a whirl pool caused by the rushing water. This pool feeds the waterfall in the previous panorama. Very dangerous. One slip and *** see ya later *** In the late summer, this pool is very calm, clear and deep. Families swim there. Idiots.

I feel sorry for the people who saw the tragic event. When will the idiots of this world learn?


07-23-2011, 01:17 AM
Hello Dennis,

I didn't see your pano yet as it is flash only (I am most times using my iPad for internet) but reading the comments gives me a good clue what it is going about.
Standing on a dangerous place to get the best shots is tempting, and if you start doing it and all goes well you repeat the same trick a next time.

Sometimes I do the same as all those idiots but I never forget to keep a safety zone of at least 40 cm from the edge, with my back turned to the edge and the pole aside me I can shoot the images without getting myself in the shot, then I move myself to the other side of the pole and continue shooting.
I do this with care and always keep in mind that an accident can be fatal and final....
Shooting a pano with a horizontal pole is an option to avoid any risk for myself but it makes it impossible to batch output my panos....

It is not a spectacular scene but I think it shows what I am talking about (flash+idevices)

Will check out your pano later.


Dennis I viewed your pano and it shows a beautiful scene, well done.
I would never ever step over the safety rail in this situation as this would be very dangerous, its not only about the risk of loosing grip of shoes on slippery rocks but also, and perhaps this is the main reason, because I know I would get disorientated a lot by the hard sound of the waterfall, under such conditions it is easy to make fatal mistakes.....

07-23-2011, 02:35 AM

Dennis the links are broken (404 messages), I guess they are damaged by a copy/paste action...


07-23-2011, 06:26 AM
Sorry about that. I usually make sure all the links work before posting.




I would also never go over any railing. I simply took two shots instead of one- one with me on each side of the monopod in order to get coverage in all 360 degrees. I think one extra shot and the stitching issues are well worth the added safety of staying on the correct side of the railing.

07-24-2011, 05:51 PM
The rest of the collection is on line.


08-11-2011, 04:58 AM
Wow Dennis,
Beautiful, quite stunning!
Saved me the cost of the airfare! Actually it makes me want to visit even more!
How do you get your logo to stay still when rotating the panorama, or is that a trade secret?
Best regards, Hugh.

08-11-2011, 06:17 AM
Thanks for the compliment Hugh.

I live about 6 hours south of Yosemite. My sister lives just 2 hours away and has never been! If I lived that close, I would be going back every month. It is so beautiful there.

The floating logo is a hot spot in Pano2VR.

First you create your logo in your favorite graphic editing software. Make sure to use a transparant background.

You define a hot spot in the skin editor, give the hot spot a name and tie in the image. Close the skin editor and go back to your panorama. Place the hot spot at the bottom of your panorama. Close Pano2VR. Open the .p2vr file with your preferred text editor. Look for the section
<tilt>-88.78364</tilt> <- your number will be slightly different

Change the <tilt>-88.78364</tilt> to read <tilt>-90</tilt>. Save and close the file. Re open Pano2VR and continue processing. This puts the logo at the very bottom of the panorama. If you do not make this edit and the hot spot is not at -90, the logo will move around in a circle as you pan around.

08-11-2011, 08:08 AM
Many Thanks Dennis, I'll give that a go.

I think I would too.
We recently had a wonderful TV program about Yosemite through all the seasons and it is one of the many locations around the world I would like to visit.
I have seen lots of photos, but your panos along the trail has given me a real insight.

Best regards, Hugh.

08-11-2011, 09:54 AM

With the Ultimate pano head, NEX-5, Sigma 8mm lens and a monopod, it makes no sense not take panoramas the same way you would take regular pictures. I am almost at the point where I will leave my D300 + 28-300 lens at home. Not quite, but close.


08-15-2011, 02:58 AM
Hello Dennis,

Yes, I see your logic, especially as the panoramas convey so much more than a single shot.
I'll follow your lead and start taking my panorama kit with me as well as the Nikon DSLR.
I have often taken panoramas with an wide angle lens on and just shooting images with a 50% overlap to give a "letterbox" panorama, but had thought of 360 panoramas only for specialist subjects.
Looking back at a set of 360 panoramas, such as these ones of Yosemite, just has to be better than a set of stills!

Best regards, Hugh.

08-15-2011, 09:58 AM

For a 360 panorama to work, it really depends on the subject matter. Sometimes a cylindrical panorama works just fine.

I have found that I spend more time looking around before I decide to shoot a pano. If the sky or ground is not too interesting, I try to find another location. I will wade out into a stream in order to get a more interesting panorama. Sometimes I will look for an interesting man hole cover just to give the viewer something to look at when panning down. Don't stand in the middle of a parking lot or square. Get right up next to a bill board or sign or interesting church door.


This was done hand held. I could not take a Nadir shot. That is ok since the main subject of this panorama is found by looking up.

Once you start traveling with your pano rig, you will find that still pictures just to not cut it any more.


08-16-2011, 09:19 AM
Hello Dennis,

Thanks for the advice, which I have taken on board.
I understand what you are staying about not being in the center - I have recently taken some panoramas where I have been forced to be close to a concrete pillar or similar, but the finished panorama has worked fine.

I am impressed by your panorama of the Sistine Chapel.
I did not take any photographs when I visited as I was firmly told to put my camera away when I took it out, but I think that stills simply would not have done it justice in any case.

All the best, Hugh.