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nick fan
05-14-2009, 07:45 PM
Fanotec is proud to announce an entirely new line of products called the "ULTIMATE LINE".
This new line of products is dedicated to the demanding photographers in seek of the highest quality products. Using CNC machining these products are built to much higher tolerances resulting in much greater precision and accuracy. Machined and anodized from premium T6061 aluminum result in much enhanced durability and lifetime. The R1 and R10 pano heads will lead the pack with newer products on the horizon.



Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1

A single row pano head designed for use with circular and full frame fisheye lenses such as the popular Sigma 8mm and Nikon 10.5mm with more to follow. The R1 pano head incorporates a unique cantilever tilting options suitable for different fisheye lens on different sensor formats under different applications. The ring clamp mounts directly onto the lens itself freeing up the camera. Different cameras can be use on the same lens without adjusting any settings.
The R1 comes with your choice of one ring clamp. Initially, only ring clamps for sigma 8mm (Canon and Nikon Mount) and Nikon 10.5mm are available.

Features and Highlights

* Arca Swiss Compatible quick release design.
* 8 precise on-the-fly tilting options (-15, -10, -7.5, -2.5, 0, +5, +7.5, +12.5 deg.) widely used by professionals for different applications, making R1 universal for all circular and full frame fisheye lens.
* Options to capture (off-set from No-Parallax-Point) the zenith (up shot) and nadir (down shot) making nadir and zenith patching easier and making sharp long exposure captures possible.
* Rolling the camera/lens in any position including the popular 0, 60 and 90 degree positions.
* Lens clamp permanently mounted to lens making reproducible mounting possible, and much quicker to setup.
* Different cameras can be use on the same lens without adjusting any settings.
* Compact and light weight.
* Great for use on monopods and high poles.
* Much easier to use.
* Advanced rotator D4 with 2,3,4,6 stops detent options and pan lock.
* Small nadir footprint.
* Built-in spirit level.
* Optional spirit level at convenient to view position.
* Optional advanced rail stop to remember NPP setting.
* 30 day money back guarantee.
* 2 year warranty.

http://www.nodalninja.com/R1-multi-view.jpg

store link: http://store.nodalninja.com/category_s/66.htm



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nick fan
05-14-2009, 07:52 PM
Nodal Ninja Ultimate R10

A single row pano head designed for use with circular and full frame fisheye lenses such as the popular Sigma 8mm and Nikkor 10.5mm with more to follow. It is the same as the R1 with the exception of the tilting feature. Each R10 head has a set of 3 built in static tilt options (0 degree and +/- certain degrees). Currently 4 sub-models with +/- 2.5, +/- 5, +/- 7.5 or +/- 10 degrees are available. When purchasing the R10 you have the option to select which tilt you desire. One set of the tilt options is suitable for a particular fisheye lens on a particular sensor format. The ring clamp mounts directly onto the lens itself freeing up the camera. Different cameras can be use on the same lens without adjusting any settings.
The R10 comes with your choice of one ring clamp. Initially, only ring clamps for sigma 8mm (Canon and Nikon Mount) and Nikon 10.5mm are available.

Features and Highlights

* Arca Swiss Compatible quick release design.
* 3 precise tilting options (0, +/- desired deg) for use under different applications.
* Modular design. Change to other tilt options by changing the vertical rail.
* Rolling the camera/lens in any position including the popular 0, 60 and 90 degree positions.
* Lens clamp permanently mounted to lens making reproducible mounting possible, and much quicker to setup.
* Different cameras can be use on the same lens without adjusting any settings.
* Compact and light weight.
* Mount directly to a monopod or high pole.
* Much easier to use.
* Advanced rotator D4 with 2,3,4,6 stops detent options and pan lock.
* Small nadir footprint.
* Optional spirit level at convenient to view position.
* Optional advanced rail stop to remember NPP setting.
* 30 day money back guarantee.
* 2 year warranty.

http://www.nodalninja.com/R10-multi-view.jpg
http://www.nodalninja.com/R10-05.jpghttp://www.nodalninja.com/R10-06.jpg

nick fan
05-14-2009, 08:01 PM
Lens Ring Clamp for fisheye lens

Lens ring clamps for fisheye lens have become popular due to their compactness and ease of use. However improper use of lens ring clamp may cause stress and hence damage to a lens. After all, these lenses are not designed to be used in this manner! Fanotec lens ring clamps are built with special attention to the safety of lens.


Features and Highlights

* Plastic insert is placed between the outer metal ring and the lens. It is contoured to fit the lens and hence increase area of contact.
* Large clamping area to reduce stress on the lens barrel, reducing the risk of damaging the lens.
* Mounted close to the camera to reduce stress on the lens due to weight of camera body
* Rolling the camera/lens in any position including the popular 0, 60 and 90 degree positions
* Index marks for every 90 degrees in the front and every 30 degrees at the back for easy alignment of roll of lens.
* permanently mounted to lens, making reproducible mounting possible, and much quicker to setup.
* Compact and light weight
* Arca Swiss Compatible quick release design, can be mounted directly to other Arca Swiss compatible system without using R1 or R10.
* great for use on a monopod or high pole
* Easy to install
* Optional advanced rail stop to remember NPP setting
* 30 day money back guarantee
* 2 year warranty
http://www.nodalninja.com/Lens-mount.jpg

nick fan
05-14-2009, 08:04 PM
for more images and object movies
http://www.nodalninja.com/r1_ultimate_pg2.html

Bill Bailey
05-14-2009, 09:16 PM
Be one of the first, available for early purchase now: http://store.nodalninja.com/category_s/66.htm

asiavr
05-14-2009, 10:52 PM
hi:
so when i want to purchase the R1 or R10, i need to purchase the lens ring separely? it is not bundle in the package?
thanks
fatchai

rey
05-14-2009, 10:59 PM
Hi!

Is Lens Ring for Sigma (Canon Mount) 8mm f/3.5 compatible with Sigma 8mm F4 lens?

nick fan
05-15-2009, 05:18 AM
hi:
so when i want to purchase the R1 or R10, i need to purchase the lens ring separely? it is not bundle in the package?
thanks
fatchai


R1/R10 comes with one ring. You can choose your ring during purchase.
We sell rings standalone for those having more than one fisheye lens. we can offer R1/R10 LESS ring in the future.


Nick

nick fan
05-15-2009, 05:20 AM
Hi!

Is Lens Ring for Sigma (Canon Mount) 8mm f/3.5 compatible with Sigma 8mm F4 lens?


yes, I can confirm it is compatible for Canon mount 8mm F4. Not sure about Nikon mount.


Nick

tjablons
05-15-2009, 09:12 AM
Nick,

Do you offer trade-ins - for example an NN3 with accessories?

Bill Bailey
05-15-2009, 10:06 AM
Nick,
Do you offer trade-ins - for example an NN3 with accessories?

We have a website trade-in offer (doesn't apply for NN3 to R1 or R10) - for details see: http://www.nodalninja.com/trade_in.html
Other resellers might or might not offer programs.

gibie
05-16-2009, 04:52 AM
Hi!

Great new products ! :001_smile:

Could you give us some advice on desired tilt-up for the Ultimate R10 ?

Have you a table given the recommended tilt-up for a particular fisheye lens on a particular sensor format ?

KG
05-16-2009, 05:20 AM
Is there any chance I can use this in the near future with my Olympus E-3 and Zuiko 8mm FishEye?

nick fan
05-16-2009, 06:57 AM
Is there any chance I can use this in the near future with my Olympus E-3 and Zuiko 8mm FishEye?


yes, it is on the list. Since Zuiko 8mm is a full frame fisheye, a zenith shot is needed. But R1/10 can't take zenith shot at NPP. R1/10 is recommended for your outdoor use, or indoor with flat ceiling only.


Nick

KG
05-16-2009, 12:17 PM
Thanks, Nick.

I'll check back when the lens mount will be available.

nick fan
05-17-2009, 07:21 AM
Here are the prototypes of
* Optional spirit level at convenient to view position.
http://www.nodalninja.com/images/optional_level1.jpghttp://www.nodalninja.com/images/optional_level2.jpg
The level is clamped to Rotator D4. It extends out of the R1/10 and can be placed to any easy to view position. We will also make similar level for monopod.
store link: http://store.nodalninja.com/product_p/u-r-l.htm

* Optional advanced rail stop to remember NPP setting.
http://www.nodalninja.com/images/integrated_stop1.jpghttp://www.nodalninja.com/images/integrated_stop2.jpg
http://www.nodalninja.com/images/integrated_stop3.jpg

This is a compact and elegant integrated stop plate. It is clipped to the lens ring plate. The stopping position has to be predetermined and machined in the factory. The mounting of lens rings has been proved to be very repeatable. After collecting and varifying the setting for a particular lens at a particular tilt angle, we will start making the stop plate.


Nick



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etegration
05-22-2009, 09:43 AM
anyone managed to try compatibility with Peleng 8mm?

psj
05-22-2009, 06:56 PM
Here are the prototypes of

* Optional advanced rail stop to remember NPP setting.


This is a compact and elegant integrated stop plate. It is clipped to the lens ring plate. The stopping position has to be predetermined and machined in the factory. The mounting of lens rings has been proved to be very repeatable. After collecting and varifying the setting for a particular lens at a particular tilt angle, we will start making the stop plate.


Nick





Nick,
How accurate is the lens ring clamping to the lens? Is it always at the same point or has no 'anchor' and the mounting of the lens rings would change everytime the lens ring is removed.

psj
05-22-2009, 07:06 PM
Oh, any words on the weight, or lack of it?

nick fan
05-22-2009, 07:24 PM
anyone managed to try compatibility with Peleng 8mm?


Peleng lacks suitable area for clamping. It requires different design from other rings. I don't think its market size is worth my effort.

nick fan
05-22-2009, 07:27 PM
Nick,
How accurate is the lens ring clamping to the lens? Is it always at the same point or has no 'anchor' and the mounting of the lens rings would change everytime the lens ring is removed.


It seems that all lenses have "anchor" point. Sigma 8mm can be reproducibly mounted with a precision of 0.5mm. This allows predetermined stop plates to be used.


nick

Vincèn
05-24-2009, 03:16 AM
By the way a new section in forum for R1/R10 family would be nice :biggrin: Bill ?

Also is it possible to use Nikon FIsheye 16mm f/2.8 on R1 ? as diameter (63mm) of that lens is same as Nikon 10,5 and pupil entry is at 83.5mm from attach of Nikon D700 when fixed on it !

Thanks for all

Vinc?®n

etegration
05-24-2009, 07:55 AM
Peleng lacks suitable area for clamping. It requires different design from other rings. I don't think its market size is worth my effort.


economics of designing one for the Peleng may be as you have mentioned...sad sad but thanks for replying... :-\

nick fan
05-24-2009, 09:06 AM
Also is it possible to use Nikon FIsheye 16mm f/2.8 on R1 ? as diameter (63mm) of that lens is same as Nikon 10,5 and pupil entry is at 83.5mm from attach of Nikon D700 when fixed on it !


yes, nikon 16mm on my list.


nick

Vincèn
05-24-2009, 09:34 AM
yes, nikon 16mm on my list.

Thanks Nick but confused by your answer. Do you mean you plan a ring for that lens or existing ring for Nikon 10.5 is ok to use with that lens ?

Thanks

Vinc?®n

Vincèn
05-26-2009, 12:25 AM
Thanks Nick but confused by your answer. Do you mean you plan a ring for that lens or existing ring for Nikon 10.5 is ok to use with that lens ?

Sorry Nick to bother you with that but may you answer me about that as one of my customer is asking for that ?
Also I need explanations about tilt of R10 as I'm confused with it. When you select 10¬? you get a head inclinated 10¬? down but the 5¬? model is inclinated to the up :confused1: What is logical here ?? I don't find it :'(

Thanks for your explanations

Vinc?®n

nick fan
05-26-2009, 07:26 AM
Thanks Nick but confused by your answer. Do you mean you plan a ring for that lens or existing ring for Nikon 10.5 is ok to use with that lens ?

Thanks

Vinc?®n

Nikon 16mm will require different plastic insert from a Nikon 10.5mm. The lens ring plate may be of different length too.

Nick

nick fan
05-26-2009, 07:30 AM
Sorry Nick to bother you with that but may you answer me about that as one of my customer is asking for that ?
Also I need explanations about tilt of R10 as I'm confused with it. When you select 10¬? you get a head inclinated 10¬? down but the 5¬? model is inclinated to the up :confused1: What is logical here ?? I don't find it :'(

Thanks for your explanations

Vinc?®n


For a Nikon 10.5mm on 1.5x sensor, a -10 deg tilt will reduce the nadir size. Zenith can be covered by handheld shot. The zenith is easier to patch. Of course, the user can also choose 0 deg tilt. It is easy to change.

For a sigma 8mm user, the tilt has to be reversed. But 10 deg tilt is a bit too much. The nadir will has poorer quality.


NIck

bigwade
05-26-2009, 11:58 AM
Also I need explanations about tilt of R10 as I'm confused with it. When you select 10¬? you get a head inclinated 10¬? down but the 5¬? model is inclinated to the up :confused1: What is logical here ?? I don't find it :'(
Thanks for your explanations
Vinc?®n


I think what you ask is about this:
When you order a 5 degr. R10 you have three choices to mount the vertical;
at -5/0/+5
That's all.
grtz
Frank

spyboy
05-27-2009, 07:48 AM
I'm confused as to which model I need.

I have a Sigma 8mm fisheye and a Sigma 15mm fisheye.

I use 2 bodies: Canon 5DM2 and a Canon 40D.

On my 40D + 8mm, I shoot at 0 degrees, 6 around, then 1 zenith ~90 degrees (can be less)

On my 5DM2 + 15mm, I shoot at -10 degrees, 6 around, then 1 zenith at~90 degrees (can be less)
or on my 5DM2 + 8mm, I shoot at 0 degrees, 3 around, plus 1 zenith if necessary (to eliminate shadowing on the stitch)

I didn't see any images on how you'd shoot a zenith (at 90 degrees or anywhere 70-90 degrees)

Can someone post some? (the object VR stuff doesn't work until 64bit windows, so I can't see those images either)

The ring holds the Sigma 8mm but will it also hold a Sigma 15mm? I'm not sure if it's a different size, looks the same to me, but that's not technical :001_smile:

Kirk

waters
05-27-2009, 01:34 PM
Nick:

The new 10.5 ring was well worth the wait and better than what I would have cobbled up! I like the simplicity; put 10.5 on camera, camera on monopod, attach Manfrotto pole level and compass and away we go! First trial was great. Now I just need to put in nadir and zenith when I have time. The simplicity is the main thing though; I will be tempted to take more panoramas that I would not have bothered with if I needed to set up my NN3 & tripod. Thanks again!

Tim Eastman

gibie
05-27-2009, 01:41 PM
On the store to order a Ultimate R10, we have to enter the desired tilt-up

Have you a table given the recommended tilt-up for a particular fisheye lens on a particular sensor format ?

bigwade
05-27-2009, 05:21 PM
I'm confused as to which model I need.

I have a Sigma 8mm fisheye and a Sigma 15mm fisheye.

I use 2 bodies: Canon 5DM2 and a Canon 40D.

On my 40D + 8mm, I shoot at 0 degrees, 6 around, then 1 zenith ~90 degrees (can be less)

On my 5DM2 + 15mm, I shoot at -10 degrees, 6 around, then 1 zenith at~90 degrees (can be less)
or on my 5DM2 + 8mm, I shoot at 0 degrees, 3 around, plus 1 zenith if necessary (to eliminate shadowing on the stitch)

I didn't see any images on how you'd shoot a zenith (at 90 degrees or anywhere 70-90 degrees)

Can someone post some? (the object VR stuff doesn't work until 64bit windows, so I can't see those images either)

The ring holds the Sigma 8mm but will it also hold a Sigma 15mm? I'm not sure if it's a different size, looks the same to me, but that's not technical :001_smile:

Kirk



Hi Kirk,
The most simple answer is use a NN3mk2 with a D8 rotator.
(yes it can hold the 5D (mk2) perfectly)
Or NN5.

The less simple anwer is, the R1.
Mind you this machine is designed for one row pano's; zenith and nadir are
off set. (extra stitch time !!!!!!)
The R10 can't shoot nadirs and zeniths at all.

You will be helped a lot more with a lens like the Tokina 10-17mm @12. (@FF)
With the 5D mk2 you have plenty resolution without Z/N
A R10 is an option then again.

I have the Sig 8 and 15 and I will try if the Sig8 insert fits but I doubt.
The beta 8mm R1 ring is on my sig8 now.
BTW the lensring system is a 2 ring system.
One, the mounting ring, and inserts for spec. lenses.
Does this help ?
grtz
Frank

nick fan
05-27-2009, 11:22 PM
I'm confused as to which model I need.

I have a Sigma 8mm fisheye and a Sigma 15mm fisheye.

I use 2 bodies: Canon 5DM2 and a Canon 40D.

On my 40D + 8mm, I shoot at 0 degrees, 6 around, then 1 zenith ~90 degrees (can be less)

On my 5DM2 + 15mm, I shoot at -10 degrees, 6 around, then 1 zenith at~90 degrees (can be less)
or on my 5DM2 + 8mm, I shoot at 0 degrees, 3 around, plus 1 zenith if necessary (to eliminate shadowing on the stitch)

I didn't see any images on how you'd shoot a zenith (at 90 degrees or anywhere 70-90 degrees)

Can someone post some? (the object VR stuff doesn't work until 64bit windows, so I can't see those images either)

The ring holds the Sigma 8mm but will it also hold a Sigma 15mm? I'm not sure if it's a different size, looks the same to me, but that's not technical :001_smile:

Kirk


Hi Kirk,
you can download the QT movie and play it on QT7.6. I test it on vista 64 bit.

R1/10 is a single row pano head. For sigma 8mm on 1.6x and FF sensor, you can cover the zenith by a tilt of 5-7.5 deg. For sigma 15mm, you need -10 deg tilt. and need a zenith shot. You can do this off R1/10. On R1 you can take a zenith shot off-set from NPP. This works for outdoor pano. So it looks like you need a R1.
Sigma 15mm has similar size from Sigma 8mm. So there is a chance it may share the same ring. I will check it out later. What I am sure is that the outer metal ring is the same. The plastic insert and lens ring plate(rail) may be different to get optimized result.

I need to clarify that R1/10 is not to replace mult-row pano head such as NN3/5. I have made a new Arca Swiss style QR clamp recently. You can mount the clamp parallel or perpendicular to the rail of NN3/5. It allows the lens ring to be mounted on NN3/5.


Nick

nick fan
05-27-2009, 11:37 PM
On the store to order a Ultimate R10, we have to enter the desired tilt-up

Have you a table given the recommended tilt-up for a particular fisheye lens on a particular sensor format ?


Yes, we need to work this work ASAP.
a quick guide.

1. circular fishey with 180 deg coverage or bigger, such as 4.5mm, 4.88mm or 5.6mm fisheye on 1.5-1.7x sensor, or 8mm or shaved 10mm, 10.5mm fisheye on FF sensor
----------------> +2.5 deg tilt on tripod/monopod, -2.5 deg tilt on high pole.

2. Cropped circular fishey with close to 180 deg coverage in long side of sensor, such as 8mm fisheye on 1.5-1.7x sensor
----------------> +5 to +7.5 deg tilt on tripod/monopod, -5 to -7.5 deg tilt on high pole. For 1.5x sensor, use 5 deg tilt. For 1.6/1.7x, use 7.5 deg tilt. For 1.5/1.6x sensor rolled at 60 deg, use 5 deg tilt.

3. For full frame fishey such as 10mm/10.5mm fisheye on 1.5-1.7x sensor or 15/16mm fishey on FF sensor
----------------> -10 deg tilt on tripod/monopod/high pole.


Nick

gibie
05-27-2009, 11:58 PM
Nick, thanx for the quick answser :001_smile:

bigwade
05-29-2009, 11:45 AM
Kirk, the Sig8 lensring fits the sig15 as well :001_smile:!!

bigwade
05-29-2009, 12:31 PM
photo

Luisben
06-02-2009, 04:40 PM
Hi Nick,

"Features and Highlights" said that Ultimate R1&R10 are "Compact and light weight". What is the weight of Nodal Ninja Ultimate R10 Static Ring Mount Pano Head NO ROTATOR + Lens Ring for Sigma (Nikon Mount) 8mm f/3.5 ?

nick fan
06-02-2009, 07:52 PM
Hi Nick,

"Features and Highlights" said that Ultimate R1&R10 are "Compact and light weight". What is the weight of Nodal Ninja Ultimate R10 Static Ring Mount Pano Head NO ROTATOR + Lens Ring for Sigma (Nikon Mount) 8mm f/3.5 ?




260g

Vincèn
06-06-2009, 02:12 AM
Sorry I have some difficulties with R1. I just wanted to give it a try so I can better understand how it works and help my customers better way.

I just took a R1, installed on it a Nikon 10.5mm fisheye mounted on my D3 (so my D3 will work in DX mode as 10.5 is not FX lens). I think everything is more or less setup but how do you setup the horizontal offset ? what is best value for that lens ? should I take shots horizontally or change tilt ?

Thanks for your infos and feedback :001_smile:

Vinc?®n

nick fan
06-06-2009, 06:42 AM
Sorry I have some difficulties with R1. I just wanted to give it a try so I can better understand how it works and help my customers better way.

I just took a R1, installed on it a Nikon 10.5mm fisheye mounted on my D3 (so my D3 will work in DX mode as 10.5 is not FX lens). I think everything is more or less setup but how do you setup the horizontal offset ? what is best value for that lens ? should I take shots horizontally or change tilt ?

Thanks for your infos and feedback :001_smile:

Vinc?®n


You need to calibrate the R1 for each tilt setting. Use the same method for calibrating the upper rail setting.
You can use 0, -7.5, -10 deg tilt +zenith + nadir.

Nick

1drey
06-08-2009, 12:29 AM
Just received R1/Sigma 8 f/Nikon
Great first impressions. Nick, another great tool for panoramic photographers from you, thank you!

A couple of questions:
1. The ring interacts with focusing ring on the lens, so when I mount ring it changes focus settings. Can it be prevented some way?
2. Did anybody determine offset setting for Sigma 8/Nikon mount?

badders
06-08-2009, 12:32 AM
Offset setting for Sigma 8mm f/3.5 is:


Angle of Tilt - Sigma 8mm x 4
+12.5 - 0.9
+5 - 1.9
0 - 2.6
-2.5 - 2.85
-7.5 - 3.6
-10 - 3.9

1drey
06-08-2009, 12:53 AM
Thank you for offset settings table!

nick fan
06-08-2009, 01:07 AM
1. The ring interacts with focusing ring on the lens, so when I mount ring it changes focus settings. Can it be prevented some way?


Tape the focusing ring first.
Tape the plastic ring before you install the metal ring..


Nick

1drey
06-08-2009, 02:25 AM
The size of footprints for R1 and NN5:
http://picasaweb.google.ru/lh/photo/WdyyWq2d550P-BsIVPgHIQ?authkey=Gv1sRgCKL33KWj_f6shAE&feat=directlink
Hmm...

1drey
06-08-2009, 02:26 AM
http://picasaweb.google.ru/lh/photo/WdyyWq2d550P-BsIVPgHIQ?authkey=Gv1sRgCKL33KWj_f6shAE&feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_FFiPZDVTGr4/SizYc0CE7wI/AAAAAAAAAwM/wBkzNWdeL1s/s288/print.jpg

1drey
06-08-2009, 02:28 AM
Sorry, link for bigger version^ http://picasaweb.google.ru/lh/photo/WdyyWq2d550P-BsIVPgHIQ?authkey=Gv1sRgCKL33KWj_f6shAE&feat=directlink

mlearmonth
06-10-2009, 07:04 AM
When do you expect the rail stop will be available for the R10 without rotator for the Nikon 10.5 fisheye? How much will the railstop cost or will it be sent free to all those who have already purchased the R10?

Thanks

nick fan
06-10-2009, 07:06 PM
When do you expect the rail stop will be available for the R10 without rotator for the Nikon 10.5 fisheye? How much will the railstop cost or will it be sent free to all those who have already purchased the R10?

Thanks


I need to collect and confirm the settings before I make them. They are optional item and will be sold for $5 each. I MAY give them out free for those sending us settings. :wink:

Nick

Vincèn
06-14-2009, 02:58 AM
Is it planned to get a ring for R1/R10 for Sunex fisheye lens (http://www.superfisheye.com/Products/Fisheye-Lenses) ?

Thanks

Vinc?®n

ingemar-bergmark
06-14-2009, 07:52 AM
Hi!

I just bought a Tokina 10-17mm fisheye, and the R1 looks very interesting.
I don't like fixed-tilt rings, so I was planning on buying a NN3 to use for my monopod as it is the lightest panohead I know of on the market, but now the R1 looks like a better option than the NN3, as I'm only planning on using a tilt of 0, +/-15 and +/-90.

I have a couple of questions.
1) When will a Tokina 107 ring be available?
2) I read somewhere that the weight of the R-series is around 260 grams. Is this the total weight of the R1 and the lens ring combined?

/ Ingemar
http://panoramas.bergmark.com

nick fan
06-14-2009, 10:25 PM
Is it planned to get a ring for R1/R10 for Sunex fisheye lens (http://www.superfisheye.com/Products/Fisheye-Lenses) ?

Thanks

Vinc?®n


yes

nick fan
06-14-2009, 10:28 PM
Hi!

I just bought a Tokina 10-17mm fisheye, and the R1 looks very interesting.
I don't like fixed-tilt rings, so I was planning on buying a NN3 to use for my monopod as it is the lightest panohead I know of on the market, but now the R1 looks like a better option than the NN3, as I'm only planning on using a tilt of 0, +/-15 and +/-90.

I have a couple of questions.
1) When will a Tokina 107 ring be available?
2) I read somewhere that the weight of the R-series is around 260 grams. Is this the total weight of the R1 and the lens ring combined?

/ Ingemar
http://panoramas.bergmark.com




what camera do you use? remember Tokina 10-17mm is a FF fisheye on APS sensor. R1/10 is only for out door pano as you can't do zenith at NPP.
Tokina ring should be available next month.

Nick

ingemar-bergmark
06-15-2009, 06:59 AM
what camera do you use? remember Tokina 10-17mm is a FF fisheye on APS sensor. R1/10 is only for out door pano as you can't do zenith at NPP.
Tokina ring should be available next month.

Nick


I use it on a Nikon D700 in FX mode. I've shaved the hood off to get the full circular image.
I have a large panohead for my indoor and gigapixel work, however the R1 should be able to be used as a lightweight travel-setup even indoors if I tilt it up +15deg. Nadir would be patched in with an offset shot with PTGui's viewpoint correction.
What I love about the R1 is that you're not stuck with a fixed tilt. You just change the tilt depending on the shooting situation and adjust the ring position. Very clever setup.

What about the weight? I know that the tokina ring isn't available yet, but I guess that the R1+ring will be somewhere in the 260 gram region?

/Ingemar
http://panoramas.bergmark.com

nick fan
06-15-2009, 08:52 AM
I use it on a Nikon D700 in FX mode. I've shaved the hood off to get the full circular image.
I have a large panohead for my indoor and gigapixel work, however the R1 should be able to be used as a lightweight travel-setup even indoors if I tilt it up +15deg. Nadir would be patched in with an offset shot with PTGui's viewpoint correction.
What I love about the R1 is that you're not stuck with a fixed tilt. You just change the tilt depending on the shooting situation and adjust the ring position. Very clever setup.

What about the weight? I know that the tokina ring isn't available yet, but I guess that the R1+ring will be somewhere in the 260 gram region?

/Ingemar
http://panoramas.bergmark.com


For shaved 10.5mm on FX, you don't need any tilt. You can use 2.5 deg tilt to improve the zenith but this tilt is not available in R1.
R1 (include ring and rotator) weighs about 500g. Rotator weighs 220g.


Nick

ingemar-bergmark
06-15-2009, 09:55 AM
For shaved 10.5mm on FX, you don't need any tilt. You can use 2.5 deg tilt to improve the zenith but this tilt is not available in R1.
R1 (include ring and rotator) weighs about 500g. Rotator weighs 220g.


Nick


For me even 2.5 deg is a little too soft, so I prefer to tilt as much as possible without creating too much of a hole at the other end :001_smile:
I see that the R1 can tilt -15/+12.5 which for me is a perfect setup.

OK. 500g - 220 = 280g. prefect weight for the monopod.
Your reply reminds me of one thing. I do not need a rotator since I will mainly be using it on a high monopod.
Will the R1 be available for purchase without the rotator, and more importantly, can the R1 be mounted on a monopod witout it?

nick fan
06-15-2009, 10:18 AM
For me even 2.5 deg is a little too soft, so I prefer to tilt as much as possible without creating too much of a hole at the other end :001_smile:
I see that the R1 can tilt -15/+12.5 which for me is a perfect setup.

OK. 500g - 220 = 280g. prefect weight for the monopod.
Your reply reminds me of one thing. I do not need a rotator since I will mainly be using it on a high monopod.
Will the R1 be available for purchase without the rotator, and more importantly, can the R1 be mounted on a monopod witout it?


i am making adapter for R1 so that it can mount on any pod with 3/8" screw. you can expect it at the end of this month.


Nick

marquee
06-18-2009, 09:48 PM
Its getting terribly confusing about the whole R1/10 models.
Maybe a video of how to shoot with each on 10.5mm with crop or full sensor might demonstrate the usability of both products.

what is the real big diff between the 2 models? Wouldn't you need t shoot top and bottom for a spherical map?
And is the rotator going to change with each new ring that get added to the mix.

I'm assuming that new rings for 16mm, 20mm 24mm 35mm 50mm are in the works.

its hard to fathom how a camera like D3 or D700 sit with the lens taking on so much weight?

nick fan
06-18-2009, 11:51 PM
Its getting terribly confusing about the whole R1/10 models.
Maybe a video of how to shoot with each on 10.5mm with crop or full sensor might demonstrate the usability of both products.

what is the real big diff between the 2 models? Wouldn't you need t shoot top and bottom for a spherical map?
And is the rotator going to change with each new ring that get added to the mix.

I'm assuming that new rings for 16mm, 20mm 24mm 35mm 50mm are in the works.

its hard to fathom how a camera like D3 or D700 sit with the lens taking on so much weight?


R1/10 is mainly for circular/ cropped circular fisheyes which has wide enough vertical angle of view to cover the zenith and nadir. For full frame fisheye users, it is only for outdoor panos when there is nothing important at the zenith to care about parallax. you can tilt from -65 deg to +90 deg (offset from NPP) for R1. You can take handheld zenith and nadir shots for R10. The rotator supports 2, 3, 4, 6 shots around. It is universal for all fisheye lens.
R1/10 is not to replace multi-row spherical head such as NN3/5. It is only for small group of fisheye lenses. There is no plan to support rectilinear lens.
if you are not sure how it works, wait until more info is available--manual, video, review or demonstration panos by users.

Nick

marquee
06-19-2009, 07:13 AM
Yes i will have to wait to see a demo.
but could this have not been achieved on the regular NN series. I suppose it makes it fool proof and easy to use with everything fixed.

with that logic, would it be fair to say that the R1 has capability to shoot nadir and azimuth by tilting -+10 degrees on a 10.5 crop sensor for a complete spherical pano while the R10 you have to shoot it hand held.

nick fan
06-19-2009, 07:19 PM
Yes i will have to wait to see a demo.
but could this have not been achieved on the regular NN series. I suppose it makes it fool proof and easy to use with everything fixed.

with that logic, would it be fair to say that the R1 has capability to shoot nadir and azimuth by tilting -+10 degrees on a 10.5 crop sensor for a complete spherical pano while the R10 you have to shoot it hand held.


With 10.5mm on cropped sensor, you cannot close the nadir and zenith by just +/-10 deg tilt. The angle of view is about 140 deg. You need to tilt up more than 20 deg to close the zenith. But then this leaves a nadir hole of more than 80 deg which is imposible to patch.
You can take 6 shots around at 0 deg followed by a handheld (or off NPP rotation on R1) zenith and nadir. The nadir and zenith hole is about 40 deg which is easy to patch.
Alternatively, you can take 6 arounds at -10 deg. This will make the nadir about 20 deg and zenith about 60 deg. This will make the nadir easier to patch. Since there is little details at the zenith for outdoor pano, the zenith can be patch easily. of course you can also use -7.5 deg tilt. This makes the nadir about 25 deg and zenith about 55 deg.
R10 has 4 models, each support 0 and +/- degree specified by the model number. So you can buy a R10 with 10 deg tilt which supports 0, +/-10 deg.


Nick

marquee
06-20-2009, 06:19 AM
I use my 8mm 10mm and 16mm on a D300 and D700 + motor drive

I'm mostly interested in shooting a complete spherical.

would the R10 be the answer that addresses all my needs and fit in with all the various combinations on lenses and cameras?
I would be interested in suiting all my fish eye needs as it would save time rather than set up time with my regular set up?

nick fan
06-20-2009, 07:29 AM
I use my 8mm 10mm and 16mm on a D300 and D700 + motor drive

I'm mostly interested in shooting a complete spherical.

would the R10 be the answer that addresses all my needs and fit in with all the various combinations on lenses and cameras?
I would be interested in suiting all my fish eye needs as it would save time rather than set up time with my regular set up?


Get the R1 and shave your 10mm. It is quicker to set up R1/10 than a regular (multi-row) set up since there is fewer adjustment. Plus pre-determined settings will be available. R1/10 will be fool-proof for (cropped) circular fisheye lenses.


Nick

marquee
06-20-2009, 06:25 PM
is there going to be an option for 16mm 0r 10mm on a full frame sensor soon?

nick fan
06-20-2009, 08:01 PM
is there going to be an option for 16mm 0r 10mm on a full frame sensor soon?

what do you mean by option? lens ring or tilt angle?
R1/10 tilt options should fit all circular and full frame fisheye lenses.
Lens ring for current popular fisheye lenses will be supported.
Nikon 10.5mm and Nikon 16mm will share many parts in common. It may save you some money. :001_smile:

Nick

Dalileis
08-05-2009, 06:45 PM
yes, I can confirm it is compatible for Canon mount 8mm F4. Not sure about Nikon mount.


Nick




I have gotten full confirmation from Nodal Ninjas (very kind) support staff assuring me of this, that both Canon mount and Nikon mount of Sigma 8mm F4 are compatible with Ulitmate R1 . It says, and I quote:

"The Sigma 8mm ring is compatible with both Canon and Nikor f/4 version
of the lens.

If you are interested to order, please just let me know. We will be
receiving sometimes soon an updated version of the ring, which allows
free rotatotion of the focusing ring when mounted on the lens.

Regards,
Mauro"

End of quote.

This is an answer to my question which was:

Is the new Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 perfectly compatible with the Sigma 8mm F4 lens, mounted on Nikon D300?

I would like to order it, but several people are telling me that these cannot be perfectly compatible since the F4 and F3.5 version have different outer diameter. If I order R1 for my Sigma 8mm F4, I would naturally want it to work flawlessly with that precise model, F4.

I also just googled "r1 sigma 8mm f4" and I get this:

http://www.red-door.co.uk/pages/productpages/nodal-ninja-ultimate-r1.html

At the bottom of that page it says what I just have mentioned:

Quote: "* Note that the Sigma 8mm rings are for the f3.5 model NOT the older f4 model - these lenses have a different outer diameter." End of quote.

What gives? Is R1 completely and flawlessly compatible with Sigma 8mm f4 lens? Can I order and have a peace of mind knowing that it will fit perfectly, no tricks or adapters needed, right out of the package, perfect fit, just like for the F3.5 version?

nick fan
08-05-2009, 07:24 PM
I would like to order it, but several people are telling me that these cannot be perfectly compatible since the F4 and F3.5 version have different outer diameter. If I order R1 for my Sigma 8mm F4, I would naturally want it to work flawlessly with that precise model, F4.
What gives? Is R1 completely and flawlessly compatible with Sigma 8mm f4 lens? Can I order and have a peace of mind knowing that it will fit perfectly, no tricks or adapters needed, right out of the package, perfect fit, just like for the F3.5 version?


The ring mount is compatible with the very old sigma 15mm as well. So I assume is is compatible with the 8mm F4. However, the lens body is shorter than the F3.5 version. It may require a shorter sliding plate for the ring to keep the nadir footprint small. I have ordered a 8mm lens F4 version. It is still on the way. I will confirm it and release a compatible version in these 2 weeks.

Nick

badders
08-06-2009, 01:21 AM
Hi Dallieis,

Are you based in the UK? If so - ship to us your Sigma f4 lens and I'll test it with one of our stock of R1 units. We'll pay the shipping charges both ways.

rey
08-06-2009, 01:34 AM
I confirm that Lens Ring for Sigma (Canon Mount) 8mm f/3.5 is compatible with Sigma 8mm F4 lens.

http://rey.fotki.com/misc/laulupidu2009/img0097.html

Dalileis
08-06-2009, 02:11 AM
The ring mount is compatible with the very old sigma 15mm as well. So I assume is is compatible with the 8mm F4. However, the lens body is shorter than the F3.5 version. It may require a shorter sliding plate for the ring to keep the nadir footprint small. I have ordered a 8mm lens F4 version. It is still on the way. I will confirm it and release a compatible version in these 2 weeks.

Nick



Nick, thank you. I would, of course, need to have the nadir footprint as small as possible, just like for the F3.5 version, because small nadir footprint is number 1 reason for us buying the R1. Good thing I did not order yet then, that would have been a mistake, and I would have ended up with the larger nadir then for the F3.5 version, which is definitely not something I want.

Also good to hear that 8mm F4 version is on the way and that it will be released in these 2 weeks. I'll wait until that release then and looking forward to that announcement.

Dalileis
08-06-2009, 02:15 AM
Hi Dallieis,

Are you based in the UK? If so - ship to us your Sigma f4 lens and I'll test it with one of our stock of R1 units. We'll pay the shipping charges both ways.


Badders, thanks for the offer, sadly I am not based in the UK.

nick fan
08-07-2009, 08:57 AM
In order to reduce stress on the lens and camera body during rotation, we are making a handle for the advanced rotators. Although it is designed for R1/10 with Rotator D4, it will work for Rotator D4/8/12/16.
http://www.nodalninja.com/images/R1/handle1a.jpg
http://www.nodalninja.com/images/R1/handle2a.jpg

store link:
http://store.nodalninja.com/index.php/rotator-handle.html



nick



[moderator edit- store link added]

supertrogg
08-11-2009, 06:00 PM
I see you now have a ring for a Tokina 10-17mm lens,will there be one for the Tokina 11-16mm lens?

nick fan
08-11-2009, 07:03 PM
I see you now have a ring for a Tokina 10-17mm lens,will there be one for the Tokina 11-16mm lens?


No. I don't see any advantage using a ring for rectilinear lens.

Nick

supertrogg
08-12-2009, 03:35 AM
Nick,

Thank you for the reply.
Ignoring for a moment the fact that the lens is rectilinear, I was looking at the R1/R10 as a lighter alternative to my NN3 MKII and RD16.


Lee

nick fan
08-12-2009, 05:29 AM
Nick,

Thank you for the reply.
Ignoring for a moment the fact that the lens is rectilinear, I was looking at the R1/R10 as a lighter alternative to my NN3 MKII and RD16.


Lee


But R1/10 only support single row. Not suitable for lens with limited angle of view.


Nick

griffburgh
08-15-2009, 04:45 AM
Does anyone have NPP settings for the Nikon 10.5mm. I thought these would be the R1 users manual!

nick fan
08-15-2009, 08:16 PM
Does anyone have NPP settings for the Nikon 10.5mm. I thought these would be the R1 users manual!


Many NPP settings will be included in the manual to be released in a few days. Here are some.

all with QR handle at left side
R1 + Tokina 10-17@12mm (4 around)
Tilt-------Setting
+7.5-------1.55
+5-------1.90
0-------2.55
-2.5-------2.90
-7.5-------3.55

R1 + Tokina 10-17@10mm (3 around)
+5-------2.25
0-------2.80
-2.5-------3.15



R10 + Tokina 10-17@12mm (4 around)
Tilt-------Setting
0-------1.9
+2.5-------1.6

Sigma 4.5mm for Canon (3 around)
+5-----2.7
0-------3.4
-2.5----3.7

Sigma 4.5mm for Canon (2 around)
0-------3.85

Nikon 10.5mm (3 around)
5-------1.45
0-------2.0
-2.5----2.3

Nikon 10.5mm (4 around)
5------1.10
0------1.85
-2.5---2.05

Nikon 10.5mm (6 around)
7.5---------0.8
0-----------1.65
-7.5--------2.65
-10---------2.85

Dalileis
08-17-2009, 03:15 PM
The ring mount is compatible with the very old sigma 15mm as well. So I assume is is compatible with the 8mm F4. However, the lens body is shorter than the F3.5 version. It may require a shorter sliding plate for the ring to keep the nadir footprint small. I have ordered a 8mm lens F4 version. It is still on the way. I will confirm it and release a compatible version in these 2 weeks.

Nick



Nick, the 2 weeks you mention above expire tomorrow, will there be an announcement soon? Thanks.

Best regards,

Dalileis

nick fan
08-18-2009, 03:39 AM
Nick, the 2 weeks you mention above expire tomorrow, will there be an announcement soon? Thanks.

Best regards,

Dalileis


Hi Dalileis,

Just got the lens and did some tests.
Here is the nadir size for a 8000x4000 spherical pano.
http://www.pbase.com/digital_initiatives/image/116225172/original
Using the lens ring plate originally for Sigma 8mm F3.5 Nikon mount will generate a slightly larger nadir hole. I tape the lens ring plate with a green label. So you see the green square. The inner black region is non-overlapping region (due to tilting up the lens). optimized lens fov is 179.3 deg.
As you can see the nadir size is very much the same for 5 deg tilt. It is limited by the D4 rotator. The recommend tilt for Sigma 8mm on 1-1.5x sensor is 2.5-5 deg. 7.5 deg is too much.
So you can get the lens ring model dedicated for Sigma 8mm F3.5 for Nikon. Or you can get the lens ring model with shorter lens ring plate which is dedicated for Sigma 15mm for nikon. It will be released this week. Both models work for you. I will use shorter lens ring plate For Sigma 8mm F4 Nikon mount in the future.


Nick

DorinDXN
08-20-2009, 03:27 AM
i am making adapter for R1 so that it can mount on any pod with 3/8" screw. you can expect it at the end of this month.


Nick



Hi Nick, is the adapter for R1 available now?

thanks!

BTW R1 works great at the Panotools meeting in Timisoara, I took about 100 live panos as tests here
http://www.livepanoramas.com/tests.html
the small miss alignaments you might see in couple (few) of panos are due to the fact I wasn't use a remote (the wireless one didn't work as expected)
and because of hurry.

cheers, Dorin

nick fan
08-20-2009, 03:37 AM
Hi Nick, is the adapter for R1 available now?

thanks!

BTW R1 works great at the Panotools meeting in Timisoara, I took about 100 live panos as tests here
http://www.livepanoramas.com/tests.html
the small miss alignaments you might see in couple (few) of panos are due to the fact I wasn't use a remote (the wireless one didn't work as expected)
and because of hurry.

cheers, Dorin




http://store.nodalninja.com/product_p/u-r1-pole-kit.htm


NICK

DorinDXN
08-20-2009, 04:18 AM
Great!
Thank you Nick.


Another piece of info wihich may be of some interest for the R1 buyers, I didn't check if it was posted before, sorry if it was, is that if one mounts the ring with the spirit level toward the camera, it reverses the sign of the tilting angles, which, deppending of the lens, may be some useful extra
So one can have then
the regular
(-15, -10, -7.5, -2.5, 0, +5, +7.5, +12.5 deg.)
and
(+15, +10, +7.5, +2.5, 0, -5, -7.5, -12.5 deg.) tilting angles,
note: not all allows the preserving of the NPP but may be useful

cheers, Dorin

Petra
08-30-2009, 06:22 AM
Offset setting for Sigma 8mm f/3.5 is:


Angle of Tilt - Sigma 8mm x 4
+12.5 - 0.9
+5 - 1.9
0 - 2.6
-2.5 - 2.85
-7.5 - 3.6
-10 - 3.9


Hello, I am really very confused. As first: the numbers you have written in the forum are not the same as written on your website (users manual) I tried all the day to get the rigth settings and all I got are a lot of stitching errors especially in the zenit. I use Sigma 8mm f/3.5 for Nikon and I bought my R10/R1 as you told me in the Berlin internet store. By the way: it needed a lot of time to get it. I guess I got an older modell - anyway I can not use your settings because the version I got has only a scale from 0,5 to 3,5. What is wrong? I would like to take the shoots with -7,5 because then I don't have to care about zenit. But you say "3,6" for -7,5 and I don't have it. I tried a couple of hours to find out the right adjustment - but I got stitching errors - sometimes more, sometimes less. What can I do? I really thought this modell is a great possibility to get acceptable resullts without having much trouble to adjust. Please help me. Thank you
Petra

Wim.Koornneef
08-30-2009, 08:13 AM
Hello Petra,

Perhaps I can be of any assistance to clear your confusion.

Altough the Nodal Ninja Ring models R1 and R10 are using the same metal ring, plastic insert and rail, the settings for both models are different.
Because you want to set a tilt of -7.5 degree I assume you have the R1 model.
For the R1 you indeed need a setting of 3.6 (cm) for the Sigma f3.5, 4 shots around and a tilt of -7.5 degree.

The rail of the Sigma 8 f3.5 should have a total lenght of 4.5 cm and the markers on the rail are engraved from 4 to 0.5 so a setting of 3.6 is possible.
It seems that the total lenght of your rail is less then 4.5 cm so I advice you to contact the vendor, explain the situation and ask for a replacement rail.
If the vendor don't have the rail on stock then I advice you to contact the sales department of Nodal Ninja and then fore sure this issue will be solved very quickly.

BTW, the rail is fixed to the ring with 4 short bolts and with one of the hex keys supplied with the R1 you should be able to easily replace the rail yourself.
Before you contact the vendor or the sales department of Nodal Ninja it is best to check out if the proper hex key is indeed supplied.

Success,
Wim





Hello, I am really very confused. As first: the numbers you have written in the forum are not the same as written on your website (users manual) I tried all the day to get the rigth settings and all I got are a lot of stitching errors especially in the zenit. I use Sigma 8mm f/3.5 for Nikon and I bought my R10/R1 as you told me in the Berlin internet store. By the way: it needed a lot of time to get it. I guess I got an older modell - anyway I can not use your settings because the version I got has only a scale from 0,5 to 3,5. What is wrong? I would like to take the shoots with -7,5 because then I don't have to care about zenit. But you say "3,6" for -7,5 and I don't have it. I tried a couple of hours to find out the right adjustment - but I got stitching errors - sometimes more, sometimes less. What can I do? I really thought this modell is a great possibility to get acceptable resullts without having much trouble to adjust. Please help me. Thank you
Petra

Petra
08-30-2009, 09:25 AM
Hello Petra,

Perhaps I can be of any assistance to clear your confusion.

Altough the Nodal Ninja Ring models R1 and R10 are using the same metal ring, plastic insert and rail, the settings for both models are different.
Because you want to set a tilt of -7.5 degree I assume you have the R1 model.
For the R1 you indeed need a setting of 3.6 (cm) for the Sigma f3.5, 4 shots around and a tilt of -7.5 degree.

The rail of the Sigma 8 f3.5 should have a total lenght of 4.5 cm and the markers on the rail are engraved from 4 to 0.5 so a setting of 3.6 is possible.
It seems that the total lenght of your rail is less then 4.5 cm so I advice you to contact the vendor, explain the situation and ask for a replacement rail.
If the vendor don't have the rail on stock then I advice you to contact the sales department of Nodal Ninja and then fore sure this issue will be solved very quickly.

BTW, the rail is fixed to the ring with 4 short bolts and with one of the hex keys supplied with the R1 you should be able to easily replace the rail yourself.
Before you contact the vendor or the sales department of Nodal Ninja it is best to check out if the proper hex key is indeed supplied.

Success,
Wim





Thank you Wim, this is what I thought. I sent an E-mail to NN resellers pano-store in Berlin. I live in Berlin and if they are intersted in finding a solution it should be easy. Hopefully soon because I am really keen to try out my new baby D90.

Kind regards
Petra

nick fan
08-31-2009, 08:43 AM
Hello, I am really very confused. As first: the numbers you have written in the forum are not the same as written on your website (users manual) I tried all the day to get the rigth settings and all I got are a lot of stitching errors especially in the zenit. I use Sigma 8mm f/3.5 for Nikon and I bought my R10/R1 as you told me in the Berlin internet store. By the way: it needed a lot of time to get it. I guess I got an older modell - anyway I can not use your settings because the version I got has only a scale from 0,5 to 3,5. What is wrong? I would like to take the shoots with -7,5 because then I don't have to care about zenit. But you say "3,6" for -7,5 and I don't have it. I tried a couple of hours to find out the right adjustment - but I got stitching errors - sometimes more, sometimes less. What can I do? I really thought this modell is a great possibility to get acceptable resullts without having much trouble to adjust. Please help me. Thank you
Petra



Sorry for the confusion. I am still verifying NPP values. The value for Sigma 8mm F3.5 Nikon mount is wrong.
It should be
Sigma 8mm F3.5 for Nikon (4 around), Quick release handle at left.
+7.5-----1.15
+5-------1.5
0---------2.2
-2.5------2.5
-7.5------3.2

There is no problem in reading values like 3.6 or 3.65 for a scale that is max at 3.5. There are 2 auxiliary lines which are 0.15cm away from the center line. Using these lines, you can ready up to 3.65.


Nick
PS the lens ring plate/ rail is right for your model. You don't get any benefit to use -7.5 deg tilt on a tripod. The tripod and Rotator D4 block more than 10 deg. Tilting down more than 2.5 won't do you any good.

Wim.Koornneef
08-31-2009, 10:08 AM
Hello Nick & Petra,

Sorry, I didn't know that the settings of the Sigma8 f3.5 for Nikon and Canon are different so by confirming the wrong settings (for Canon instead of Nikon) I made the confusion only bigger :-(

Best,
Wim



Sigma 8mm F3.5 for Nikon (4 around), Quick release handle at left.
+7.5-----1.15
+5-------1.5
0---------2.2
-2.5------2.5
-7.5------3.2

Petra
08-31-2009, 12:00 PM
Sorry for the confusion. I am still verifying NPP values. The value for Sigma 8mm F3.5 Nikon mount is wrong.
It should be
Sigma 8mm F3.5 for Nikon (4 around), Quick release handle at left.
+7.5-----1.15
+5-------1.5
0---------2.2
-2.5------2.5
-7.5------3.2

There is no problem in reading values like 3.6 or 3.65 for a scale that is max at 3.5. There are 2 auxiliary lines which are 0.15cm away from the center line. Using these lines, you can ready up to 3.65.


Nick
PS the lens ring plate/ rail is right for your model. You don't get any benefit to use -7.5 deg tilt on a tripod. The tripod and Rotator D4 block more than 10 deg. Tilting down more than 2.5 won't do you any good.



Sorry please take a look on your "users manual" for R1 http://www.nodalninja.com/R1_quick_reference_front_back.pdf

Your advice for sigma 8 mm / 3,5 for Nikon is there:

+12,5 ---- 0,70
+ 7,5 ---- 1,25
+ 5 ----- 1,6
0 ----- 2,25
- 2,5 ----- 2,55
- 7,5 ----- 3,75

Please let me try tomorrow again with the new numbers. Thank your for your answer.
Regards
Petra

Dalileis
09-02-2009, 11:29 AM
Hi Dalileis,

Just got the lens and did some tests.
Here is the nadir size for a 8000x4000 spherical pano.
http://www.pbase.com/digital_initiatives/image/116225172/original
Using the lens ring plate originally for Sigma 8mm F3.5 Nikon mount will generate a slightly larger nadir hole. I tape the lens ring plate with a green label. So you see the green square. The inner black region is non-overlapping region (due to tilting up the lens). optimized lens fov is 179.3 deg.
As you can see the nadir size is very much the same for 5 deg tilt. It is limited by the D4 rotator. The recommend tilt for Sigma 8mm on 1-1.5x sensor is 2.5-5 deg. 7.5 deg is too much.
So you can get the lens ring model dedicated for Sigma 8mm F3.5 for Nikon. Or you can get the lens ring model with shorter lens ring plate which is dedicated for Sigma 15mm for nikon. It will be released this week. Both models work for you. I will use shorter lens ring plate For Sigma 8mm F4 Nikon mount in the future.


Nick


Hi

I was so dissapointed with your answer there, Nick. There was supposed to be a dedicated Sigma 8mm F4 version ready to order, yet there was none.

Sigma 8mm F3.5 produces a noticeably larger nadir hole, so not an option. Question, also, is how secure it is, as it is not made specifically for F4:confused1:

I do not want my expensive new camera crashing down the rocks, goes without saying.

I am not sure what you mean by this:

"So you can get the lens ring model dedicated for Sigma 8mm F3.5 for Nikon. Or you can get the lens ring model with shorter lens ring plate which is dedicated for Sigma 15mm for nikon. It will be released this week. Both models work for you. I will use shorter lens ring plate For Sigma 8mm F4 Nikon mount in the future."

What exactly are you saying here? Please help me understand.

1. Is lens ring dedicated for Sigma 15 mm for Nikon completely and totally safely compatible with Sigma F4 for Nikon?

2. When using ring dedicated for Sigma 15 mm Nikon with Sigma F4 for Nikon that way, how is the nadir hole size comparing to lens ring for Sigma 8mm F3.5 for NIkon used on Sigma 8mm F3.5 for Nikon? Smaller? Same? Larger?

3. You said that the lens ring model with shorter lens ring plate which is dedicated for Sigma 15mm for Nikon would be realesed couple of weeks ago. Has it been released, can it be ordered?

4. You say: "I will use shorter lens ring plate For Sigma 8mm F4 Nikon mount in the future." Does this mean you will make a dedicated Sigma 8mm F4 Nikon mount lens ring version still?

5. My situation is: I plan to use D300 + Sigma 8mm F4 at 0 degrees tilt. I want nadir as small as safely and technically possible. What really are my options then? Sigma 15 mm lens ring for Nikon?

6. Also you mention, quote: "As you can see the nadir size is very much the same for 5 deg tilt. It is limited by the D4 rotator".

I don´t see that, honestly. Those large protruding corners make a big difference when retouching. The nadir is quite noticeably larger. It is limited by the D4 rotator at the sides, yes. But the corners are much larger and make quite a difference.

Please, advise. Thank you.

nick fan
09-02-2009, 07:37 PM
1. Is lens ring dedicated for Sigma 15 mm for Nikon completely and totally safely compatible with Sigma F4 for Nikon?


Yes, lens dimensions at mounting position are the same. The only difference is Sigma 15mm is shorter than Sigma 8mm. So A shorter lens ring plate is needed.



2. When using ring dedicated for Sigma 15 mm Nikon with Sigma F4 for Nikon that way, how is the nadir hole size comparing to lens ring for Sigma 8mm F3.5 for NIkon used on Sigma 8mm F3.5 for Nikon? Smaller? Same? Larger?

the picture I shew you was a comparison between lens rings for Sigma 15mm and Sigma 8mm F3.5. Shorter lens ring plate is for Sigma 15mm.



3. You said that the lens ring model with shorter lens ring plate which is dedicated for Sigma 15mm for Nikon would be realesed couple of weeks ago. Has it been released, can it be ordered?

Check it out here.
http://store.nodalninja.com/category_s/66.htm
It should be available now. But it was wrongly labeled as for Canon. I have ask Bill to correct it.



4. You say: "I will use shorter lens ring plate For Sigma 8mm F4 Nikon mount in the future." Does this mean you will make a dedicated Sigma 8mm F4 Nikon mount lens ring version still?

I will label the lens ring as
"Lens Ring for Sigma 8mm f/4 and 15mm (Nikon Mount) "



6. Also you mention, quote: "As you can see the nadir size is very much the same for 5 deg tilt. It is limited by the D4 rotator".


yes, the rotator and / or the tripod is the limit.


Nick

nick fan
09-03-2009, 08:43 AM
There was supposed to be a dedicated Sigma 8mm F4 version ready to order, yet there was none.


Here we go a dedicated ring for sigma 8mm F4 (Nikon mount)
http://store.nodalninja.com/_p/u-r-s8f4-s15-n.htm


Nick



[moderator note - slight edit to url]

Dalileis
09-03-2009, 10:00 AM
You are the best. :wink:

Got it, everything understood. And this is what I call support. Every question answered, all of it cleared, straight to the point. Fantastic. My order will be placed within next two months. Cheers and thanks!

johnchoy
09-08-2009, 11:03 AM
I already have the original NN5 and the RD16 rotator . Can I just buy the " R10 with no rotator " and use these rotators instead ?

thx,

john

nick fan
09-08-2009, 11:24 PM
I already have the original NN5 and the RD16 rotator . Can I just buy the " R10 with no rotator " and use these rotators instead ?

thx,

john


I have made an adapter for using R1/10 on RD8/12/16. It will be uploaded to store in a few days.
Mind you that this combo is very heavy and bulky.

Nick

johnchoy
09-09-2009, 01:03 PM
Mind you that this combo is very heavy and bulky.


that's good it can be used on the RD16.

I plan to use this combo when on tripod. I guess it will be light than the NN5 w/ RD16, Is it right?

nick fan
09-09-2009, 07:52 PM
that's good it can be used on the RD16.

I plan to use this combo when on tripod. I guess it will be light than the NN5 w/ RD16, Is it right?




sure!

Nick

johnchoy
09-14-2009, 10:33 AM
http://store.nodalninja.com/v/vspfiles/photos/U-R1-POLE-KIT-7S.jpg

Can this be done by disassemble the R10 no rotation.

nick fan
09-14-2009, 09:05 PM
http://store.nodalninja.com/v/vspfiles/photos/U-R1-POLE-KIT-7S.jpg

Can this be done by disassemble the R10 no rotation.


Yes. this is for shifting the NPP a few mm forward of the rotation axis. Good for high pole.

Nick

johnchoy
09-14-2009, 09:43 PM
Hi Nick,

Thanks for the info. I know what I need now.

Still haven't seen the adapter for RD16 in the store. And in order to save shipping, I want to place the order including this. Can you tell me the exact availability.

Thanks,

John

Dalileis
09-15-2009, 09:15 AM
Here we go a dedicated ring for sigma 8mm F4 (Nikon mount)
http://store.nodalninja.com/_p/u-r-s8f4-s15-n.htm


Nick



[moderator note - slight edit to url]



Hi Nick,

on the Ultimate R1 ordering page:

http://store.nodalninja.com/product_p/u-r1.htm

there is no choosable option for dedicated Sigma 8mm F4 (Nikon mount).

Please take a look at the provided screenshot:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3875/8mmf4nonikonmount.jpg

I´d like to order R1 with one lens ring dedicated for Sigma 8mm F4 (Nikon mount). Can´t do it. Can you please fix this?

Thank you.

nick fan
09-15-2009, 11:52 PM
Hi Nick,

on the Ultimate R1 ordering page:

http://store.nodalninja.com/product_p/u-r1.htm

there is no choosable option for dedicated Sigma 8mm F4 (Nikon mount).

Please take a look at the provided screenshot:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3875/8mmf4nonikonmount.jpg

I´d like to order R1 with one lens ring dedicated for Sigma 8mm F4 (Nikon mount). Can´t do it. Can you please fix this?

Thank you.



Oops, I miss the error in the page.
Lens Ring for Sigma 8mm f/4 and 15mm (Canon Mount)
should be replaced by Nikon Mount.

Sorry for that.


Nick

Dalileis
09-16-2009, 04:40 PM
No problem, Nick. :001_smile:

But, can you please fix it so I can order what I want? I need it for a major, extremely important project, and would like to order it and have it delivered ASAP. The big time client is waiting and I think the R1 just might be the anwser to my (our) problems. They were very nice to me and I would love to make their wish come true (360¬? from the top of the beacon in the hotel harbour). So pretty please with sugar on top... :wink:

Need to shot from that beacon, no place for downshot, so musthave as small nadir as possible. Thus, my earlier questions about the nadir size, muy importante.

If that does not work out, I will shot one more version, just in case, where the monopod will be protruding about two meters from the top of the beacon, parallell to the ground which is about 16 meters below. The monopod will have D300, Sigma 8mm F4 and, you guessed it, R1 on top of it. The rotating of the camera will be managed by rotating the monopod at the other end and not breathing for a while. Thus, my earlier questions about the security and complete safety of the setup.

nick fan
09-16-2009, 08:20 PM
No problem, Nick. :001_smile:

But, can you please fix it so I can order what I want? I need it for a major, extremely important project, and would like to order it and have it delivered ASAP. The big time client is waiting and I think the R1 just might be the anwser to my (our) problems. They were very nice to me and I would love to make their wish come true (360¬? from the top of the beacon in the hotel harbour). So pretty please with sugar on top... :wink:

Need to shot from that beacon, no place for downshot, so musthave as small nadir as possible. Thus, my earlier questions about the nadir size, muy importante.

If that does not work out, I will shot one more version, just in case, where the monopod will be protruding about two meters from the top of the beacon, parallell to the ground which is about 16 meters below. The monopod will have D300, Sigma 8mm F4 and, you guessed it, R1 on top of it. The rotating of the camera will be managed by rotating the monopod at the other end and not breathing for a while. Thus, my earlier questions about the security and complete safety of the setup.





D300, Sigma 8mm F4 are quite heavy. If the monopod is horizontal to the ground, you should pay extra attention and test the stability of the setup. Make sure there is enough friction between the Rotator and RD4. You may want to tape the rotator with duct tape.


I have informed Bill to make the correction. He might have missed my mail.
If you are in US, give a call to Bill. Contact info is at the website.

Nick

PS it is fixed now.

Dalileis
09-18-2009, 02:45 PM
Great. Thanks again.

I am very precise and carefull person by nature, and professionally even more so. I will pay extra attention and will do exactly as the instructions that follow the product say, into the smallest minutiae. I will test and retest that everything is set up properly according to your instructions uploaded even here:

http://nodalninja.com/Manuals/R1_quick_reference_front_back.pdf

I will make sure that there is enough friction and will tape the rotator with the duct tape.

Bill Bailey
09-18-2009, 04:27 PM
Great. Thanks again.

I am very precise and carefull person by nature, and professionally even more so. I will pay extra attention and will do exactly as the instructions that follow the product say, into the smallest minutiae. I will test and retest that everything is set up properly according to your instructions uploaded even here:

http://nodalninja.com/Manuals/R1_quick_reference_front_back.pdf

I will make sure that there is enough friction and will tape the rotator with the duct tape.

We are tweaking the QRG as we go so if you do find any inconsistencies or inaccuracies please let us know so we might correct it.
cheers
Bill

Dalileis
09-19-2009, 05:36 AM
Yes, will do.

I have just ordered:

1 x Ultimate R1 + Ring Clamp:Lens Ring for Sigma 8mmf/4 and 15mm (Nikon)

1 x R1 R10 External Level

1 x Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 Pole Adapter

Cheers!

Bill Bailey
09-19-2009, 08:36 AM
Yes, will do.
I have just ordered:
1 x Ultimate R1 + Ring Clamp:Lens Ring for Sigma 8mmf/4 and 15mm (Nikon)
1 x R1 R10 External Level
1 x Nodal Ninja Ultimate R1 Pole Adapter
Cheers!

We appreciate your business - once you get your R1 if you have any questions let us know - we're here for you.
Cheers
Bill

nick fan
09-21-2009, 10:16 AM
I already have the original NN5 and the RD16 rotator . Can I just buy the " R10 with no rotator " and use these rotators instead ?

thx,

john


Here it is the adapter.
http://store.nodalninja.com/v/vspfiles/photos/U-AR-R-KIT-2.jpg
http://store.nodalninja.com/v/vspfiles/photos/U-AR-R-KIT-4.jpg

Nick

Bill Bailey
09-21-2009, 10:20 AM
The store link to the above adapter is:
http://store.nodalninja.com/product_p/u-ar-r-kit.htm

thx
Bill

bigwade
09-21-2009, 12:39 PM
That's a nice one.
Clever again :-)

nick fan
09-21-2009, 07:48 PM
That's a nice one.
Clever again :-)


Hmm, the combo is bulky and heavy. Not really a good match for the stuff on top. :wink:


Nick

johnchoy
09-22-2009, 04:00 AM
good news and bad news to me.

I can't resist to place the order for r10 last week and have to place another order in a short period again.

Seems that this adapter can work with the original NN5 rotator.

john

bigwade
09-22-2009, 01:20 PM
Hmm, the combo is bulky and heavy. Not really a good match for the stuff on top. :wink:
Nick

It is a nice one for this combo, between the poleadapter and the Giottos QM..
grtz
Frank

Dalileis
10-11-2009, 05:08 AM
Hi Nick and Bill

Received the R1. Thank you very much. The merchandise looks and feels great. I sold my 360precision to buy this, and I can tell you, I do not regret it. You have all my support in the future. Will continue buying from you and recommend you to everyone I know does 360. Next up for me will probably be new lens ring for another lens I plan to get, Tokina... But I´ll get back to you when the time is right.

Also, I have found the NPP for Sigma 8mm f/4 for Nikon. Here it is:

NPP value @ 0¬? tilt: 1.80.

This is precise. Not 1.81. Not 1.79.

1.80.

Tested in a very small bathroom, with a lot of objects very near the lens. Stitches perfectly.

Best regards,

Dalileis

Dalileis
10-11-2009, 05:14 AM
1.80

Dalileis
10-11-2009, 05:23 AM
Sorry, of course it's +1.80, there is no minus for the NPP value. Misinterpreted visual memory.

nick fan
10-11-2009, 09:00 PM
Hi Nick and Bill

Received the R1. Thank you very much. The merchandise looks and feels great. I sold my 360precision to buy this, and I can tell you, I do not regret it. You have all my support in the future. Will continue buying from you and recommend you to everyone I know does 360. Next up for me will probably be new lens ring for another lens I plan to get, Tokina... But I´ll get back to you when the time is right.

Also, I have found the NPP for Sigma 8mm f/4 for Nikon. Here it is:

NPP value @ 0¬? tilt: 1.80.

This is precise. Not 1.81. Not 1.79.

1.80.

Tested in a very small bathroom, with a lot of objects very near the lens. Stitches perfectly.

Best regards,

Dalileis






Hi Dalileis,

Thanks for reporting your NPP. Glad you enjoy our product.


Nick

yardielion
11-09-2009, 02:55 AM
Hi,

do you have any idea of the availability of Ultimate R1 without rotator?

Cheers

Bill Bailey
11-09-2009, 07:40 AM
Hi,
do you have any idea of the availability of Ultimate R1 without rotator?
Cheers

We do not have R1's without rotators however if you know your desired tilt we have R10's without rotators.
Bill

Bill Bailey
11-10-2009, 07:50 AM
We now offer the R1 without rotator :-)

http://store.nodalninja.com/product_p/u-r1-no-r.htm

thx
Bill

yardielion
11-12-2009, 02:22 AM
Thanks! :001_smile:

yardielion
11-12-2009, 06:24 AM
I just received an R10, 2.5¬? .
I wonder how to use it with 0¬? tilt?
I didn't found in the notices?

badders
11-12-2009, 06:27 AM
You can't. Only the R1 lets you do this. What camera and lens are you using?

mrtraitor
11-12-2009, 06:43 AM
as for my understanding you need to unscrew the R10 vertical and flip the mount. my is on the way you should be able to do static 0, -2.5, and +2.5



I just received an R10, 2.5¬? .
I wonder how to use it with 0¬? tilt?
I didn't found in the notices?

yardielion
11-12-2009, 06:43 AM
I've got a Tokina 10-17 with 5D....

As said in the product page of Ultimate R10 (http://www.nodalninja.com/products/panoheads/ultimate.html) :

"Each R10 head has a set of 3 built in static tilt options (0 degree and +/- certain degrees)."

badders
11-12-2009, 06:44 AM
Why do you want to set it to 0 degs?

nick fan
11-12-2009, 07:07 AM
I just received an R10, 2.5¬? .
I wonder how to use it with 0¬? tilt?
I didn't found in the notices?


unscrew the vertical rail and the QR clamp. install the vertical rail with the slanted edge facing down. install the QR clamp. Done.
If you want -2.5 deg, unscrew the vertical rail (and the QR clamp if you want to keep the handle at the same side), flip the vertical rail vertically, reinstall the vertical rail.


Nick

badders
11-12-2009, 07:08 AM
Ahh!

yardielion
11-12-2009, 07:25 AM
Thanks for your help :biggrin:

briantomhson
11-12-2009, 12:29 PM
thanks. very helpful post. I read a few of your other posts and they all helped me.

ptortora
01-17-2010, 04:57 AM
1. Will you be making a ring clamp for the Nikon 14-24mm f2.8 zoom in the near future -- lots of pros and semi pros using this lens now and would love to see a ring clamp for it.

2. I see there is a ring clamp listed for the Nikon 16mm fisheye - does the lens hood need to be cut. On that lens, it is steel and next to impossible to cut.

3. Is the Nikon 16mm clamp available immediately?

Thanks.

nick fan
01-17-2010, 06:51 PM
1. Will you be making a ring clamp for the Nikon 14-24mm f2.8 zoom in the near future -- lots of pros and semi pros using this lens now and would love to see a ring clamp for it.


Never. it won't have any advantage to make a ring for large lens.




2. I see there is a ring clamp listed for the Nikon 16mm fisheye - does the lens hood need to be cut. On that lens, it is steel and next to impossible to cut.

3. Is the Nikon 16mm clamp available immediately?

Thanks.


For 16mm fisheye, you need FX sensor. no need to shave the hood.
Ring is available now.
http://store.nodalninja.com/product_p/u-r-n16.htm

Diegoto
02-01-2010, 07:51 AM
Hi guys,

I am in the process of learning how this whole system works. I am planing to buy an inexpensive ball head for easy adjustments on site. Unfortunately, I can not afford an EZ-Leveler yet.


What is the R1 weight? (to figure out if the SBH-100 can handle my configuration)
Would a ball head shift and ruin the NPP when rotating the head?
Do I need quick release or this makes shift worse?


Thanks,

Diego

nick fan
02-01-2010, 06:39 PM
Hi guys,

I am in the process of learning how this whole system works. I am planing to buy an inexpensive ball head for easy adjustments on site. Unfortunately, I can not afford an EZ-Leveler yet.


What is the R1 weight? (to figure out if the SBH-100 can handle my configuration)
Would a ball head shift and ruin the NPP when rotating the head?
Do I need quick release or this makes shift worse?


Thanks,

Diego


Hi Diego,

An R1 with rotator D4 and lens ring will weight about 500g. Weight varies slightly for different lens mount.
You can use ball head and quick release. No effect on NPP as long as they are stead enough.
Bear in mind that R1/10 is a single row pano head. It work best for fisheye with focal length up to 13mm (35mm eq.). For longer focal length, more experience in stitching is needed.

Nick

Diegoto
02-02-2010, 05:15 AM
Great! Thanks so much Nick

philip
02-24-2010, 04:04 AM
Hello,

The R1 pano head is close to perfect for my needs. I use it mostly with a 0¬? tilt using a Nikkor 10.5 fisheye lens. I have tried to find the NPP in the case of tilt. I have tried the 2 tilt options +/- 15¬? you propose. I had no problem finding the NPP at +15¬? but at -15¬? the sliding bar seemed short by may be one cm. I wondered wether I did something wrong or if you had plans to lengthen a bit this bar in the future.

Thanks and congratulations for your products (I also have the NN5)

regards
Philip (Brittany, France)

nick fan
02-24-2010, 04:18 AM
Hello,

The R1 pano head is close to perfect for my needs. I use it mostly with a 0¬? tilt using a Nikkor 10.5 fisheye lens. I have tried to find the NPP in the case of tilt. I have tried the 2 tilt options +/- 15¬? you propose. I had no problem finding the NPP at +15¬? but at -15¬? the sliding bar seemed short by may be one cm. I wondered wether I did something wrong or if you had plans to lengthen a bit this bar in the future.

Thanks and congratulations for your products (I also have the NN5)

regards
Philip (Brittany, France)


Hi Philip,

Thanks for your continuous support of Fanotec products.
You will be just fine to use -10 deg tilt. -15 deg will include more rotator footprint, which is not more productive. Since the lens ring also works for shaved Nikon 10.5mm on FX sensor, the sliding bar should not be longer. Otherwise, the footprint (image of sliding bar in this case) will be very large. Or I need to list separate model for regular and shaved Nikon 10.5mm. Unless I get more requests to use a longer bar for regular Nikon 10.5mm, I will keep it as is.

Nick

philip
02-26-2010, 12:23 PM
Hi Nick

Thanks for your feedback. How do I set it to -10¬? ? Shall I drill a new hole ? Do I need to order something ?
rgds
philip

nick fan
02-26-2010, 05:52 PM
Hi Nick

Thanks for your feedback. How do I set it to -10¬? ? Shall I drill a new hole ? Do I need to order something ?
rgds
philip



-10 deg is at opposite side of -15 deg. change the tilt knob to the other side to use it.


nick

philip
02-28-2010, 09:34 AM
-10 deg is at opposite side of -15 deg. change the tilt knob to the other side to use it.


nick


Thanks
I had no problem finding the NPP at -10¬?
philip

Diegoto
02-28-2010, 12:23 PM
Hi Guys,

I find very very useful the R1 for taking only 4 pictures with a Sigma 8mm. But still do not know how safe it is to stitch a 5th picture of the nadir. I seems to me this picture is not going to match with rest since it is by hand or with a horizontal post.
What do you guys do or recommend?
How difficult is it to stitch said off parallax point nadir with PTGui?
Is it possible to do it in a productive way?

Thanks

nick fan
02-28-2010, 09:41 PM
Hi Guys,

I find very very useful the R1 for taking only 4 pictures with a Sigma 8mm. But still do not know how safe it is to stitch a 5th picture of the nadir. I seems to me this picture is not going to match with rest since it is by hand or with a horizontal post.
What do you guys do or recommend?
How difficult is it to stitch said off parallax point nadir with PTGui?
Is it possible to do it in a productive way?

Thanks

some tutorials for you.
using ptgui Pro and viewpoint correction to patch nadir in ptgui directly.
http://www.johnhpanos.com/ptgvpt.htm

Using photoshops or other programs that support layers.
http://www.rosaurophotography.com/html/PS4.html
Also see other technique of taking nadir shots.
http://www.rosaurophotography.com/html/panoramas/vr_review/nn3/nn3_review.html
scroll down to bottom of page. Same technique can be applied using R1.

Nick

Diegoto
03-01-2010, 06:13 PM
Thanks so much Nick. I will take a look

mlearmonth
03-22-2010, 06:10 PM
On the Nodal Ninja website, where do I find the * Optional advanced rail stop to remember NPP setting. mentioned in the R10 description and how much does it cost?

Mike Learmonth

hindenhaag
03-22-2010, 10:38 PM
I think still in development. I think Nick wants to be sure about the NPP settings. There will be a clip which is placed in the rail of the lens ring.

Sure Nick will tell you something more when he sees your question.

Heinz

nick fan
03-22-2010, 11:46 PM
On the Nodal Ninja website, where do I find the * Optional advanced rail stop to remember NPP setting. mentioned in the R10 description and how much does it cost?

Mike Learmonth


To make a custom rail stop, you need to supply us your settings. I will make one for you for $9.95.
It turns out to be a challenge to manage all possible custom rail stops. There can be lots of settings and hence lots of models. So I switch to a universal design which is still under development.


Nick

hindenhaag
04-07-2010, 01:44 AM
Hello,

I have a question to my experienced colleagues: what focus setting to you tape before you mount it to the lens ring of the R1 for Sigma 8mm/f3.5 and shaved Nikkor 10.5 for Full frame like D3.

Thanks in advance,

Heinz

nick fan
04-07-2010, 07:20 AM
Hello,

I have a question to my experienced colleagues: what focus setting to you tape before you mount it to the lens ring of the R1 for Sigma 8mm/f3.5 and shaved Nikkor 10.5 for Full frame like D3.

Thanks in advance,

Heinz


For sigma 8mm, I taped at 0.5m. You should test different focus distance to determine the best distance. NPP moved very little for typical focus distances.

Nick

hindenhaag
04-07-2010, 08:33 AM
Thx Nick,

0.5 for which aperture, concerning hyperfocal distance?

Heinz

nick fan
04-07-2010, 10:00 AM
Thx Nick,

0.5 for which aperture, concerning hyperfocal distance?

Heinz


F8 is most popular.

Nick

bigwade
04-14-2010, 03:42 PM
Heinz, just do a testrun in a small street with cars.
Focus at inf. and make shots @5.6/8/11
Focus at 1m-inf. and make shots @5.6/8/11
Focus at 1m and make shots @5.6/8/11
Focus at <1m and make shots @5.6/8/11
Pick out the best one and that will be your setting, simple as that.
Mine is at 1m at f8. (others report 0.5m)
More about the sig8 here:
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/Sigma-8mm-f35-EX-DG-Circular-Fisheye-4180

There is so much written about this and other lenses on panoguide and other forums, you shoud find it I guess....

hindenhaag
04-14-2010, 07:59 PM
Hi

Thx for your replies.

Good idea.

Heinz

philip
04-16-2010, 11:58 PM
Dear all,

I am currently using the R1 with the 10.5 Nikon and a D90 (I am very happy with the quality of this solution for cylindric panos)
I am looking to get the full frame D700.
If I shave the 10.5, do you think that I can do a spherical by adding a small tilt (+15°) ? Is anyone using it like that ?
Which solution would you recommend for spherical images using R1 ?

Many thanks
Philip

nick fan
04-17-2010, 12:05 AM
Dear all,

I am currently using the R1 with the 10.5 Nikon and a D90 (I am very happy with the quality of this solution for cylindric panos)
I am looking to get the full frame D700.
If I shave the 10.5, do you think that I can do a spherical by adding a small tilt (+15°) ? Is anyone using it like that ?
Which solution would you recommend for spherical images using R1 ?

Many thanks
Philip


with a shaved 10.5mm on D700, you only need 0-5 deg tilt. 4 shots around.

NIck

hindenhaag
04-17-2010, 06:31 AM
Philipp,

even at 0° with 4 shots around you get a closed zenith. 5° will make a smaller nadir footprint. I just received my lens a couple of days ago, shaved it, and use it on D3. Just doing test shots without having a proof of the NPP settings for R1 in the database. I think I have to check the NPP setting from the database for my lens combination. I am not quite sure they are right. Sometimes it differs for example o+/- 0.5 mm.

I am happier with the 10.5 nikkor than with the Sigma 8mm/f3.5.

Heinz

hindenhaag
04-17-2010, 06:34 AM
Ups,

of course the footprint has to be bigger with +5°, not smaller ::001_smile:

Heinz

HD360
06-10-2010, 01:57 PM
JUst ordered my R1 but noticed after the processing that the wrong lens clamp was on the order. How do I get the correct one in the shippment? Only 45 minutes after I odered did it say that it was too late. I need help I dont want to buy an additional clamp.

nick fan
06-10-2010, 07:33 PM
JUst ordered my R1 but noticed after the processing that the wrong lens clamp was on the order. How do I get the correct one in the shippment? Only 45 minutes after I odered did it say that it was too late. I need help I dont want to buy an additional clamp.


Your order should contains reseller contact info. Contact your reseller immediately.


Nick

ShawnMoore
06-02-2011, 08:34 AM
I have been using the Manfrotto 303SPH for a couple of years with inconsistent results partly the learning curve at first and partly the large cumbersome head. The 303SPH is a beast and to big to take with you everywhere I am done with It. I just got the R1 friday to simplify my Panos and keep Panos fun. I love the small simple design and ease of use of the R1. The compact design makes it easy to take with you any where I highly recommend it.
The two lens I used with the 303 were the 8mm Sigma (which I use now with the R1) and the Canon EF 14mm f/2.8L II USM.
I would love to see a ring for the Canon 14mm it is a great Lens for Panos it is impeccably sharp, full frame and the wides lens made without going fish eye.

My question is would any lens other ring this lens ?
Has any one tried to make another lens ring work?
“NIck “ Any chance of a lens ring of for Canon the EF 14mm II?

EF 14mm f/2.8L II USM
he 303SPH
Max. Diameter x Length, Weight

3.2 in. x 3.7 in. / 80mm x 94mm
22.8 oz./645g (lens only)

nick fan
06-03-2011, 07:01 AM
you want to use the 14mm on R1? or a multi-row pano head, like M1?
as long as a lens has suitable area for clamping, I may develop a ring for it.
It looks like EF 14mm is suitable for clamping. The focus window will be blocked though.

Nick

ShawnMoore
06-05-2011, 06:19 PM
A ring for the 14 would be awesome. Covering the focus window doesn't matter what matters is what is on focus.

Shawn

gonzalu
05-25-2012, 06:14 PM
Never mind ...

Cheers!
Manny